Author Topic: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?  (Read 2844 times)

Kyronea

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2007, 11:32:31 pm »
Exactly my point. I also don't see why Magus would want to take out Guardia as I outlined earlier. As such, we are left with three possibilities:

1. It's just some random Porrean soldier and thus irrelevant except to show the Masamune being taken.

2. It is a character we know and just have not identified. (Unlikely.)

3. It is a completely new character who may or may not be introduced in a new Chrono game.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2007, 11:41:12 pm »
Yeah, in the end Crono and the others helped Magus get revenge on Lavos, and I doubt messing around with Guardia in 1005 AD is the first thing on his mind. Number three seems like the most likely option. It could be a random porre guy, but they seem to put a bit more emphasis on it for it to be someone random.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2007, 11:45:32 pm »
I don't think he took out Guardia.  He might have come to help and grabbed the Masamune...But that doesn't make sense, cause if he did, I don't think he'd run off with it.  But if he did, maybe that's why its corrupted?

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2007, 11:52:26 pm »
Magus is not evil...he is simply ruthless. Furthermore, from what we can garner out of Chrono Cross from Lucca's letter, he seems to have changed at least somewhat, become a bit nicer. All he ever cared about was taking revenge for the loss of his sister and the destruction of his homeland. Once that was done he had no more reason to kill people or steal swords or do anything. And as for the Masamune's corruption...that can hardly be attributed to Magus when there is no evidence as such. All we know is that Masa and Mune were asleep for centuries and the sword itself channeled the energy of people's negative emotions and amplified them, which makes sense given it is made of Dreamstone and dreams are nothing if not sources of emotion.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2007, 11:58:58 pm »
Very true...I just still can't see "Dalton" being the root of the whole thing.  Doesn't make sense to me.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2007, 12:05:56 am »
Magus coming to help, I guess in the end, is possible, but that opens up some more questions. Regardless of who the shadow is, or who comes to help, Porre wins the fight. And from multiple mentions Magus seems to live on beyond that, so he would have to fight, then escape somehow? If so, leaving Crono and Marle to a probably less positive end

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2007, 08:43:43 am »
Here's a likely theory...  What if some freak of nature that Magus end up between 1001-1010 A.D. & amidst of chaos, He stole the Masamune.  Perhaps he stole it to prevent Porre to acquire such important artifact.


Magus doesn't wield a sword.

Judging from Magus' physique... I say that he'd undergone serious physical training along with weapon mastery & other training programs.  Magus had undergone such length in training to prevent or reduce combat disadvantage.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2007, 10:04:08 am »
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I suppose Magus would take Masamune and place it somewhere safe away from Porre, but unless he did it to work with Belthasar so the Masamune would end up in El Nido, I'm just not seeing it as that likely.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2007, 11:10:47 am »
Yeah, seeing as how Lucca called him by his birthname, I would think Janus mellowed out after Lavos was over and done with.
But if Balthasar had some kind of plan to get Schala back from the DBT, I'm sure Magus would do anything that was needed, including destroying Guardia. If the shadow was Magus, either everyone from the CT cast was in on Balthasars plan, or Magus just did what he had to in order to get Schala back. Seems EXTREMLY unlikely that the shadow was Magus though, so I'm just goin off the the top of the head here.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2007, 01:52:47 pm »
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=2347.0


I have documented my posts on this subject matter. Maybe I should start a new topic and have an open discussion in which everyones ideas are welcome. I want to somehow petition this to Square, but chances of them reading this are slim and my idea will likely be tossed out the window. However, I want reinforcement to the plot.


To summarize what I have stated;

There was a hidden agenda behind Porre that Crono/Marle/Company found out about. A mysterious Porre dictator appeared one day with rumored motive and means for the Guardia line to cease. This individual was Dalton of Zeal. His role in taking out Guardia suggests he wanted to take Crono and Marle out of the picture since they were his first and foremost threat in the timeline. Please note that the following CT characters are dead and pose no threat to Dalton's new reign . . . Ayla, Glenn, Robo, and Lucca-who is believed to have died in 1015AD from the attack on the orphanage. Also, Magus is currently MIA at the current moment. Now, Guardia fell in 1005AD and as soon as intel confirmed Crono and Marle were believed to have perished in the attack, the victory of Porre over Guardia would be guaranteed.
It’s believed, before the events from which Guardia fell, that Dalton traveled forward in time after the events of Zeal in 12,000BC and the involvement of Crono and co. Craving the awesome power of the parasite known as Lavos and fueled by revenge, he retraced the steps of Crono's allies after the Ocean Palace disaster and followed them to Death Peak in the future. After finding out Lavos existed in this time and its offspring, he had a sick and twisted idea where he would soon return atop Death Peak again. After Lavos was destroyed, he returned to Death Peak, searched, and found but one crucial mistake left behind by our band of heroes. Marle and co. who were determined to bring Crono back, killed a Lavos Spawn in a box canyon, and in order to advance further up the mountain, they used the shell of the Lavos Spawn to climb higher where they would reach there goal. Dalton examined the shell and collected a sample of its DNA from the shell and or inner layer. His plan was now set into motion.

To recap again, Dalton overthrew Guardia so that there would be no interference from our heroes. His master plan and operation is to create another Lavos parasite, raise it, and then control it so that he can conquer the many different parts of the Chrono world.

The one thing he did not account for was the Prophet in his time, who we know as Magus prince of Zeal. Dalton’s magic is strong, and the only person with superior magic ability is Magus. Magus may possibly be allied with Crono and Marle once again from CT, awaiting the opportunity to stop Dalton and put an end to Porre’s rein. For all we know, Crono and Marle are in hiding awaiting the return of "someone". The play by play context on how Magus comes into the picture with Crono/Marle to stop Dalton is a mystery, but perhaps his mind is guided by the return of Schala who will join with Magus to stop this insurrection. They might even team up with Serge, or the other important characters of CC. That’s for you to decide…

*The opening FMV to the next Chrono game would begin with Marle, Lucca, Frog, Robo, Ayla, and Magus pushing the Lavos Spawn shell into a position against the box canyon where they could advance up the mountain. The camera pans on each character as you see the emotion and expressions on their faces as they one by one climb onto the shell and up the cliff. The camera then pans out and then back in on the stationary Lavos Spawn shell. A change in time, perhaps months or years, takes place and just as little by little, snow covers the shell. A mysterious silhouette of a figure then stands in front of the shell.* -us Chrono fans would identify the complexture and shape of the mystery person to be Dalton.


This is the jist of it for anyone just reading up about my theory on the Fall of Guardia and next Chrono game.

Should I start a new topic about this? does it have potential? or should I drop it here?
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