Dorren, the Masamune and Crono's death

[Zaperking]

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I totally agree on the last statement.

[Chrono'99]

The Masamune was stolen from Guardia after Lynx provided Porre with new technology. All the killing and and massacre it was used for seemed to have turned it evil.

Wrong. Lynx didn't even exist in 1,005 A.D. yet. Porre were influenced by an help "from outside of the normal flow of time", but it wasn't Lynx.

It ended in the Dragon Falls where Radius found it, and then at the Isle of the Damned. Afterwards Dario is killed by Karsh, and Lynx takes it to use it as a shield for the Dead Sea.

Radius found the Masamune on Zenan Mainland, not Divine Dragon Falls. This is confirmed in the Ultimania Guide and heavily implied by the game (Viper was promoted to the rank of General on Zenan Mainland, and he and Radius, Garai and Zappa "tore up the battlefield" in 1,005 A.D.).

[Ryu-Kami]

Radius found the Masamune on Zenan Mainland, not Divine Dragon Falls. This is confirmed in the Ultimania Guide and heavily implied by the game (Viper was promoted to the rank of General on Zenan Mainland, and he and Radius, Garai and Zappa "tore up the battlefield" in 1,005 A.D.).

I don't know. Inside the cave at Divine Dragon Falls, it looked all tiwsted & evil. The evil of the Masamune probably altered the area, in similar fashion to  Ilse of the Damn and the gates to the Dead Sea. It may not have been there long, but Radius had to find it there.

2) Not so sure that she'd come on her own. The sword did a lot after the events of Chrono Trigger, and she never seemed to notice. Defeating Dario seems to have triggered it.

That's why I think Doreen just suddenly shown up and sounded piss at them. She must of knew about all the evil they done but just haven't found Masa & Mune until Dario used it. Cross has shown that the Chrono world is much bigger than what was seen in Trigger. She must have been searching the mainland for years, and started looking in El Nido around the point of Cross' events.

The Masamune was stolen from Guardia after Lynx provided Porre with new technology. All the killing and and massacre it was used for seemed to have turned it evil.

Wrong. Lynx didn't even exist in 1,005 A.D. yet. Porre were influenced by an help "from outside of the normal flow of time", but it wasn't Lynx.

Porre/Zenan started to migrate to El Nido in around 900 A.D., right? Either they found Chronopolis or just bit & piece of their technology in the area, and that started their militry uprise. Someone else, probably no one important, just found the Masamune around the same time (or at least after Frog's death) and used it in the attack on Guardia.

[Kyronea]

Porre/Zenan started to migrate to El Nido in around 900 A.D., right? Either they found Chronopolis or just bit & piece of their technology in the area, and that started their militry uprise. Someone else, probably no one important, just found the Masamune around the same time (or at least after Frog's death) and used it in the attack on Guardia.

Chronopolis was locked off from all outside contact precisely to prevent this sort of thing from happening. Porre did not rise to power due to technology found in El Nido...the potential for disrupting the timeline and preventing FATE's existence means FATE would never allow it. They must have risen to power in some timeline before Chronopolis was first built so their rise to power is history as FATE saw it.

[Ryu-Kami]

Chronopolis was locked off from all outside contact precisely to prevent this sort of thing from happening. Porre did not rise to power due to technology found in El Nido...the potential for disrupting the timeline and preventing FATE's existence means FATE would never allow it. They must have risen to power in some timeline before Chronopolis was first built so their rise to power is history as FATE saw it.

No offense, but FATE did and/or allowed a lot of them that risked it's exists. Not saying it did allow Porre to walk in and raid the place. But having people from a distant future and a race from a another dimension live so close to the outside world wasn't smart. Event if it erased their memories and partical controlled them with the Records of Fate; it's still was too big a risk. The records of fate, dragoians ruins, and the demi-human's elements were very advance, and too dangerous to leave laying around if you're not trying to change history. And don't forget the second moon. One way or another FATE's mistake most likely changed Porre.

[Zaperking]

Whatever happened, Belthasar probably need it to happen, or he simply didn't care.

Anyway, Porre probably did take over Guardia in the original timeline, that doesn't mean that their dictatorship would last till 1999AD.

[Magus_Brokenhart]

Hmm. About Lynx not being the one, you are right. Now, if it was someone we knew, it might be Dalton since he would have the motive and long hair. That or it was a character we know nothing about. OR my crazy little Magus being overtaken by the darkness theory, which resulted in HIS evil being transfered into the sword. >_>'

[ZealKnight]

so doreen is also a sword? and she was created by melchior?

[Kyronea]

so doreen is also a sword? and she was created by melchior?

No, Doreen is another member of the Dream Species, though given that she looks just like Masa and Mune it is reasonable to conclude that she was created by Melchior as opposed to, say, Gaspar or Belthesar.

[ZealKnight]

so could there be more? and how can melchior create a species?

[Kyronea]

so could there be more?

I don't see why not.

and how can melchior create a species?

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Dream_Species.html

[Chrono'99]

so could there be more?

Turnip and the ghost monsters in Marbule... and possibly Spekkio himself.

[Kyronea]

Turnip and the ghost monsters in Marbule... and possibly Spekkio himself.

Don't forget Norstein Bekkler...I'm almost convinced he's a Dream Species member created by Belthesar.

[ZealKnight]

so no one really knows how they come to be? so we are assuming that they are just dreamed up?

[Chrono'99]

so no one really knows how they come to be? so we are assuming that they are just dreamed up?

We're only assuming for Doreen, Spekkio, and Norstein Bekkler (the first being "almost sure", the two others being more "possible theories"). Masa, Mune, Turnip, and the Marbule ghost creatures are directly stated to be dreams embodied.