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« Reply #60 on: October 14, 2004, 06:41:32 pm »
But that totally messes with how Gil knows about ZEAL in the first place...My plan was that Gil & Magness Co. come directly into the whole ZEAL Project storyline via the End of Time, Gaspar tells about ZEAL (or 'someone', he's not sure about) messing with time, Gil is obviously interested for personal reasons, and he and Flea leave the End of Time to shadow the Nanashi back to ZEAL.

I just didn't know when Gaspar knew or what he knew...

I suppose I could make it so that Gil follows the Nanashi from another point aside from the capture of Sigma, but really Gil has to find out about ZEAL via Gaspar...

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« Reply #61 on: October 14, 2004, 07:00:04 pm »
That should work out fine.

Gaspar has been watching ZEAL's appearances in Keystone for some time now, right?

So Gil learned about ZEAL through Gaspar, traveled to ZEAL, and ended up being captured somehow. Just start your posts with the jailbreak scene and how precisely he got there can be described later. ZeaLitY's scene with Gaspar didn't assert that this was his FIRST time seeing a temporal alteration, did it?

Have we resolved whether or not direct travel from ZEAL in a group of four would lead to the EoT?

I think that's problematic. The EoT needs to be a safe haven of sorts - otherwise ZEAL would have stumbled upon it already. ZEAL's power over time should be great enough to overcome the weaknesses in the Entity's gate system. (Only being able to send three through time at once...)

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« Reply #62 on: October 14, 2004, 07:09:57 pm »
How about we say that travel from ZEAL won't trigger it, but while they're in Keystone, Sigma, Gil, Argus, and whoever stumble across a gate subject to the Conservation of Time Theorem, or which leads directly to the End of Time anyway (perhaps placed there by Gaspar).

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« Reply #63 on: October 14, 2004, 07:38:13 pm »
Yes, that's the idea. Because Gaspar's chosen are using Entity-created gates within Keystone, the Conservation of Time Theorem does apply to them.

Thus - if some Zealians were to travel through time within Keystone using Entity gates, they too would wind up at the EoT - although they really have no reason to be using one. Hence, their failure to stumble across the EoT.

Is this agreeable to everyone?

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« Reply #64 on: October 14, 2004, 08:32:04 pm »
I've been thinking of rough ideas for the scene in which Toma actually locates the shell. Ybrik Metaknight will be handling this. Thus far, I've brainstormed that maybe two Nanashi can escort Toma through the Giant's Claw, defeating enemies and ripping the Rust Tyrano in half. It'd give us a chance to see a fight scene without going gung-ho action so soon.

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« Reply #65 on: October 14, 2004, 08:49:42 pm »
That would be pretty cool. I mean, hey - a little "oilshed" to get the crowd going...

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« Reply #66 on: October 14, 2004, 10:11:28 pm »
That Gate situation seems about right. Either: 1. ZEAL wouldn't risk sending 4 or more through a gate at a time because of the CoT (why risk going to some Temporal location of least resistence when they know nothing of it or of its safety) because they can simply create another gate and send 3 more through or 2. ZEAL's gates simply aren't subjected to CoT, only Entity Gates are.

I'm kind of parshal to the first, but either works for me, really...

As for Toma...I think it'd be better for the Nanashi not to escort Toma, but perhaps to simply go through Giant's Claw before Toma and whipe everything threatening to Toma out of commission. You wouldn't want Toma to know about ZEAL so directly, right? Little changes first.

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« Reply #67 on: October 14, 2004, 11:56:35 pm »
Good call.

Then having a scene with the Nanashi kicking arse alone might work.

Any takers?

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« Reply #68 on: October 15, 2004, 06:03:07 am »
Uh, not it...Sounds cool, and I want to read it so I know more about what these Nanashi look like...

But I've got enough on my plate as is: Magness, Project ZEAL: Hunter & Amy, Project ZEAL: Gil & Flea Jailbreak, Project ZEAL: Kaeru, A Writer's Story (another co-auther project/contest over at FFInsider.net), and whatever the hell else I happen to be writing...Oh yeah, and a couple classes (Business English & Contemp World Probs) too...

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« Reply #69 on: October 17, 2004, 05:23:58 pm »
Not to step on anyone's toes, but it would be nice if whoever is starting the whole jailbreak scenario would go ahead and get the ball rolling. A lot of people's future posts (Well, everyone involved, really!) are kinda hinging on this one event.

Remember that you don't need huge posts everytime, especially if someone else is writing about the same event you are.

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« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2004, 06:32:19 pm »
I believe Radical_Dreamer is the one who'll be starting the jailbreak scene.

On a related note, I'm working on my first Backer post. The way I have it, it will end with him finding out about the Rainbow Shell, so it should lead in well to the Toma scenario.

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« Reply #71 on: October 17, 2004, 08:04:46 pm »
Quote from: Leebot
I believe Radical_Dreamer is the one who'll be starting the jailbreak scene.

On a related note, I'm working on my first Backer post. The way I have it, it will end with him finding out about the Rainbow Shell, so it should lead in well to the Toma scenario.


Fair enough. Has a conclusion been reached on exactly who is getting sprung along with Argus?

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« Reply #72 on: October 17, 2004, 08:21:09 pm »
Sigma, definitely. I don't think we've clarified whether both Gil and Flea or just Gil will be there, or how they'll end up in the prison in the first place.

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« Reply #73 on: October 18, 2004, 07:51:43 pm »
Yeah, I thought I was going to post them already in jail...Gil & Flea...I was going to have them shadow the Nanashi that captured Sigma...and then they would be captured themselves upon arrival in ZEAL...

I'm pretty much done with it and I'll post it either later today or tommorrow...

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« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2004, 05:38:36 pm »
I was sitting in Economics class, and



A Koala Bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!

I've been thinking about how we can give everyone the most artistic freedom while still having the plot move on. I was also thinking of some of the issues Toma finding the Rainbow Shell could cause, and realized:

Every action can cause nameless civil wars, deaths of kings and such, etc. and its better that we don't generalize the effects like this. Sometimes we don't even have a reason to change things save to preserve time from unnecessary outside influence.

Next, I've been thinking of how we can do everyone's characters and keep it fresh and free. For instance:

Gaspar doesn't know where the changes originate immediately, instead locating particularly big points of change in time and dispatching heroes there. For Toma:

2329 A.D.

Gryph and Backer sent to investigate political matters preventing the reestablishment of Chronopolis (Backer keeps Gryph in sane line :) )

1003 A.D.

Juan and Sigma are sent to explore rumors of wild, prismatic Element use in El Nido; Juan knows El Nido like his backyard, while Sigma is a contigency for the use of these prismatic devices against the two.

607 A.D.

Alt-Glenn and Jack Nova sent to search strange phenomena around the mountains; Glenn because he knows the time period, and Jack because he's a superior outdoorsman and they'll be traveling in Denadoro.

Such a model would give everyone a chance to develop chemistry between characters and write their own scenes. Eventually we might all converge back to one central point of issue for resolving subplots, but in the meantime we can have everyone dealing with things in their assigned time periods. As you can see, different characters might hit up different areas due to skills in those places.