Why do we love the Chrono series so much?

[Kanadyets]

I do agree that here we agree.  Are we in agreement?  I would just have an addendum that while some people's motivation for achieving the lofty heights of...whatever it is they're aiming for may seem odd, unneccesary, or in any other way ridiculous, it's pretty much not my business.  To each, their own and all that.  Besides, folks just feel like they need to be King (or Queen) of the Castle.  In my mind that attitude is somewhat childish, but again, not my business.

I'm also with you on Marle.  I like having her along because within a classic RPG context, she fills the white mage role for me.  I always need a healer, and so that's what I have her do.  Reason being, and this comes down to my one criticism of her, that her spell selection sucks moose balls.  Nonetheless, haste and cure keep me going, so I like having her along.

[Sora]

CT = Beautiful art. CC= awesome battle system
RD = great story/characters.

[gpXZ]

I will do a comparation between FFVI (for snes) and Chrono Trigger, tough i didn't beat FFVI to the end

FFVI: Graphics are boring, just can't stand them, the animation frames are stupid and archaic, looks like NES, not visually entertaining, same thing for attacks, skill and techs.
Chrono Trigger: Graphics are awesome, the animations are rich, there a immense amount of techs (including double and triple techs), which one creative, which one very cool of watching. Game is visually entertainning, which my eyes enjoy alot

FFVI: Has that annoying infinite random monster encounter. I just can't find anything more stressful than having to fight monsters in the same spots thousands and thousands of time, you get unmotivated to explore, you have to keep watching every single step you do. And when you find a dead end and have to make a turn, get ready for fighting random monsters again. And has this noisy battle intro which always used me to scare when i was a child
Chrono Trigger: Monsters encounters are pre-defined. You can walk freely without the fear of getting bothered by infinite random monsters encounters

Chrono Trigger: Characters/villains art concepts are cool, FFVI aren't. Chrono is probably the coolest character of all the times. When i first saw him with that DBZ-like punk hair and that sword, it was love at first sight

Chrono Trigger: Probably the best soundtrack of all the times, its impossible to don't get in love with it. They fits perfectly for each scene context. They push you inside the story and make you feel the emotions

[Sora]

I will do a comparation between FFVI (for snes) and Chrono Trigger, tough i didn't beat FFVI to the end

FFVI: Graphics are boring, just can't stand them, the animation frames are stupid and archaic, looks like NES, not visually entertaining, same thing for attacks, skill and techs.
Chrono Trigger: Graphics are awesome, the animations are rich, there a immense amount of techs (including double and triple techs), which one creative, which one very cool of watching. Game is visually entertainning, which my eyes enjoy alot

FFVI: Has that annoying infinite random monster encounter. I just can't find anything more stressful than having to fight monsters in the same spots thousands and thousands of time, you get unmotivated to explore, you have to keep watching every single step you do. And when you find a dead end and have to make a turn, get ready for fighting random monsters again. And has this noisy battle intro which always used me to scare when i was a child
Chrono Trigger: Monsters encounters are pre-defined. You can walk freely without the fear of getting bothered by infinite random monsters encounters

Chrono Trigger: Characters/villains art concepts are cool, FFVI aren't. Chrono is probably the coolest character of all the times. When i first saw him with that DBZ-like punk hair and that sword, it was love at first sight

Chrono Trigger: Probably the best soundtrack of all the times, its impossible to don't get in love with it. They fits perfectly for each scene context. They push you inside the story and make you feel the emotions

prepare to get RAPED!

FFVI: Has that annoying infinite random monster encounter. I just can't find anything more stressful than having to fight monsters in the same spots thousands and thousands of time, you get unmotivated to explore, you have to keep watching every single step you do. And when you find a dead end and have to make a turn, get ready for fighting random monsters again. And has this noisy battle intro which always used me to scare when i was a child

Chrono Trigger's battles can still be annoying, cause you can trigger the same battle over and over.
Also, if you don't like the random encounters so much use the Moogle Charm, idiot.

Characters/villains art concepts are cool, FFVI aren't.

Most Chrono Trigger enemies were cle'che, Lavos was unique, but he was just a random end boss, like Chaos. Cefca grows with the story, you see him as a helpless runt, than later on he double-crosses his way into more and more power until hes a God. this was a unique and ground breaking event for RPGs because before Cefca end bosses were just big stupid monsters, well maybe except for Dark Falz, who joins your party to steal...something, i forget. anyway Cefca was the revolution that RPGs needed. His personality was awesomely psychotic, his laugh was pure evil, and the final battle at the end blows Lavos out of the sky.

Chrono Trigger: Probably the best soundtrack of all the times, its impossible to don't get in love with it. They fits perfectly for each scene context. They push you inside the story and make you feel the emotions

If you're going to tell me you don't like FF6's music I'm going to tell you that you have bad taste.

FFVI: Graphics are boring, just can't stand them, the animation frames are stupid and archaic, looks like NES, not visually entertaining, same thing for attacks, skill and techs.

The graphics were amazing for their time and same goes for everything else. Also, FF6 had a lot more magic and skills than Chrono Trigger.

Two more things:
1) Beat a game before you judge it, idiot.
2) You do realize that  FF6 was made before Chrono Trigger, and that CT uses FF6's engine and that if it weren't for FF6 we wouldn't have Chrono Trigger, right?

[ZeaLitY]

Since when does CT use FF6's engine?

[Deus Chisa]

Well, I like FF6, but comparing it to Chrono is like comparing apples to hime-sama.  As for the points brought up...

POINT 1: Random encounters vs. triggered encounters.
Well, I personally prefer the Chrono system in this case, but there is a time-tested solution to not fighting battles you don't want to fight - it's called the L and R buttons.  Works in both games.  Also, Sora, moogle charm isn't available until two thirds of the way through the game, which makes that kind of pointless to those who probably haven't gotten out of Magitek Factory yet.

POINT 2: Graphics.
I don't judge based on graphics.  Leave this to someone who cares.

POINT 3: Character design
I take issue with both your views here.  Yes, Crono IS cool, but to say it's because of looking like Goku...that's no point at all.  Toriyama's character designs aren't very varied.  He's got more Goku look-alikes than you can shake a power pole at.  As for Sora's digression on Kefka v. Lavos: What.  The.  Hell!  First off, Kefka was hardly the first villain to start small and become godlike.  The name you yourself brought up, Chaos, did the same thing.  Second, Lavos just a random end boss?!  It's built up throughout the game as an unstoppable force, its influence is felt from the halls of Zeal to the ruins of the future, it freakin' KILLS CRONO, and even after it's annihilated, it just gets more dangerous!  That's no random "big stupid monster", not at all! 
This said, I also love Kefka as a villain, but he's an entirely different kind of villain.

POINT 4: Music
Both soundtracks are godly.  I'd say that out of battle, edge FF6, in battle, edge CT, except for Dancing Mad, which is, well, Dancing Mad.

POINT 5: Engine
Seconding Zeal here - while they are both 2D RPGs with 3D effects from Square, the engines are NOT the same.  Field engine is different, battle engine is different, graphics engine is different.

Finally, comparing debate to sexual violation?  That's rude, wrong, and probably grounds for the law of the land to come into play.  Bye-bye, kid.

[ZeaLitY]

Yes, and now I will chime in by saying that Edgar is cooler than Crono.

[Sora]

what about Shadow? he's awesome~

[Chrono'99]

Yeah, Shadow is one of the rare good character that Tetsuya Nomura ever created.

[ZeaLitY]

Amen to that. There's so much tangible sadness surrounding him. He's really killed off all emotion so he doesn't suffer in regret, but you know all that sadness hangs around him...the best expression of this raw feeling is in the credits song when his theme plays right after Relm's. It's an assault on the heart.

[Kebrel]

 ...Dammit, I just started play FFVI A few days ago.

[V_Translanka]

WTF? There's a topic that melted into a FFVI Vs CT thread? Fore shame. Both games are gods in my eyes and the only game to give me near as much enjoyment since them is FFTactics (Vagrant Story to a slightly lesser degree). But anyways...Even though some have already touched upon most points...I'll go over them as I see it...

Graphics & Random Battles - If you seriously have a problem with either of these things then it's possible that oldschool RPGs just aren't your thing. Graphics mean next to nothing. We all know they're going to try and use the best possible at the time if they can and in both instances they DID. FFVI was a big step after FFV (and especially the outdated looking FFIV). There are hardly any ATB-based RPGs that DON'T use random battles. If you want pre-set battles go for the Seiken Densetsu series or something. I don't see the point in complaining about it anyways because you're going to have to level up anyways. In FFVI you get the choice of HOW much you level up...In CT, your levels at end-game are fairly pre-determined.

Character Design - Though with better graphics it was easier for CT to actually SHOW their characters in relation to their designs and I love them all from Crono's spikey-do to Magus's I'm-a-badass-don't-touch-my-shit and not to mention the absolute cool & unique-factor of Frog & Robo...Amano is just awesome. Tina & Celes are two of the most beautiful looking characters in the whole of the series. Tina's Esper form is even more amazing than Frog & Robo combined. While other characters aren't as flashy, they're each unique and they all look like they belong to the same world and fit together (as do Crono & Co.). Plus, the monsters, while they aren't animated, are amazing looking...geeze, the Espers are amazing! Even the ones you never want to summon because they **** you up. >_>

Music - I think CT's music is probably the best, most varied RPG soundtrack out there. I've always loved it and still like it more than CC's. Each song is unique and stands out in a crowd. But FFVI's soundtrack is just as good and is Nobuo's best work. It's all sweeping, movie-quality stuff that gets your heart pumping while it rips it out.

Beat FFVI...it's one of the best FF endings!

[maggiekarp]

FFVI and CT are like apples and oranges and both have special places in my heart. Though I tend to lean towards the CT side because it's part of a series I love, FFVI was made epic to me through a friend's re-translation.


They're DIFFERENT franchises, as well.

[V_Translanka]

I've always hated that apples & oranges analogy...It makes me think that whatever you're saying is like apples & oranges both suck. I'd say something like pears &...uh...hm...watermelon? honeydew? raspberries? butterscotch?

Well, regardless, it's good that both now have re-translations. May God grant Ted some R&R.

[Romana]

...Dammit, I just started play FFVI A few days ago.

Funny enough, so did I.

I was gonna discuss it, but I'll carry it over to a new thread in General.