The Masamune

[Zaperking]

Oo, I see Oo

Well anyway, what does it mean if the Masamune is the Einlanzer's demonic brother.

[V_Translanka]

Well, in CC, it's said that the Einlanzer was created by the Dragonians as a counter the Masamune, making them like brothers to each other in a way...and the Masamune was all evilishous, yes?

[Legend of the Past]

I should think that it was made regardless of the Masamune, but equal to it's power.

Oh, and something else that's not entirely connected to the Masamune, but more towards RD. I've played RD, and Esmeld said that Riddel had special powers over the FF, which is why Lynx adopted her, I guess. But WTF? Riddel being an Arbiter?

[DeweyisOverrated]

I would think the (oh boy, prepare yourself for a bad spelling) Einlanzer was made in special regards to the Masamune.  It seems hard to believe that its just a coinidence that it can neutralize MM's power.  They didn't happen to come upon it by chance or anything, Radius (and I'm sure many others) knew of its power.

[kazmaka]

I would think the (oh boy, prepare yourself for a bad spelling) Einlanzer was made in special regards to the Masamune.  It seems hard to believe that its just a coinidence that it can neutralize MM's power.  They didn't happen to come upon it by chance or anything, Radius (and I'm sure many others) knew of its power.

im pretty sure you spelt einlanzer corectly, i would agree that it was made after the masamune went evil as to counter it.

[Chrono'99]

I would think the (oh boy, prepare yourself for a bad spelling) Einlanzer was made in special regards to the Masamune.  It seems hard to believe that its just a coinidence that it can neutralize MM's power.  They didn't happen to come upon it by chance or anything, Radius (and I'm sure many others) knew of its power.

im pretty sure you spelt einlanzer corectly, i would agree that it was made after the masamune went evil as to counter it.

It is said in CC that Dario was the 14th (or whatever) wielder of the Einlanzer. Since the Masamune went evil after 1,005 AD, I doubt there was enough time in about 10 years for having 14 wielders. Plus the Dragonians were probably already extinct by 1,005 AD.

[kazmaka]

so how does the einlanzer negate the masamunes evil...ness... ugh, because the masamune was not originally evil.

[Chrono'99]

The Masamune is a human object (dreamstone charged with Lavos energy) which is cursed, while the Einlanzer is a dragonian object which is holy, so...

[DeweyisOverrated]

It is said in CC that Dario was the 14th (or whatever) wielder of the Einlanzer. Since the Masamune went evil after 1,005 AD, I doubt there was enough time in about 10 years for having 14 wielders. Plus the Dragonians were probably already extinct by 1,005 AD.

Very valid point.  But do we know for SURE that the Masamune became evil after 1,005 AD?  The cutscenes showed that it DISAPPEARED then.  It's very possible..actually just plausible I suppose... it became evil sometime between 600 A.D. and 1,005 AD.

[AuraTwilight]

The events of the Time Crash could have altered the Masamune's nature :/ Eh, who knows? Maybe Einlanzer was made by a Dragonian Melchior as a parrallel to Masamune, unaware of it's existence until Dinopolis got pulled across and such. Maybe it's holier and able to negate Masamune because it hasn't absorbed Lavos Energy?

[DeweyisOverrated]

I think pretty much everyone agrees that the Masamune can become evil because it has absorbed Lavos' energy.  But how would the Time Crash affect the nature of the Masamune?  The two are unrelated.  If you're talking about how its guarding the entrance to the Dead Sea, it came there after the Time Crash occured.

[Legend of the Past]

Look at the PSX ending. The Masamune looks pretty normal to me, there, except for some blood on it, which just means it's been to battle. It was stolen by some sadistic maniac who went and slaughtered some little kids in Truce, got filled with enmity. Then Radius killed Garai, the Masamune got even more evil when filled with Garai's enmity. That's that.

[V_Translanka]

Firstly, about the Riddle stuff...The FF in RD & the FF in CC are obviously two different things governed by different rules.

Secondly, am I the only one who finds it just a little too convienient (or I guess you could say inconvienient) that the Masamune just happens to wind up in the Divine Dragon Falls (or wherever you believe that scene to take place) for Radius & Garai to find...I smell more of Belthasar's crafty handywork...

[Legend of the Past]

Firstly, about the Riddle stuff...The FF in RD & the FF in CC are obviously two different things governed by different rules.

Secondly, am I the only one who finds it just a little too convienient (or I guess you could say inconvienient) that the Masamune just happens to wind up in the Divine Dragon Falls (or wherever you believe that scene to take place) for Radius & Garai to find...I smell more of Belthasar's crafty handywork...

Hmm, I've always thought it's Dendoro Mountains (Espically since Radius, Garai, Viper and Zappa were stationed in Zenan). Then again, it could be DDF. However, it dosen't have to be Belthasar. I guess that manacial killer desired to get rid of the blade, with all the auras and ill-omens around it, and either someone really really powerful (Like, say, Crono?) placed it in Dendoro Mts\DDF\wherever, but was afraid to use it. He only carried it, never used it, perhaps even never made more then a couple seconds contact with it, and if he did touch it for lengthy perios of time his spirit would not succumb to the malice, because he never used it.

As for Riddel... Yeah, I know they work in the different terms. However, how can you explain the fact she has magical powers over the FF? Hmm?

[V_Translanka]

Yeah, but could it be Crono that put it there? I mean, it would have to be put there after the Fall, right? After it was aquired by whoever....

Also, I explain the Riddle powers by the simple fact that I don't remember that part... Can someone refresh my RD memory? What're the quotes?