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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2007, 04:41:44 pm »
That entire thing is convoluted, and it's an issue with the "Gate Effect" surrounding the Sea of Eden. To alleviate another Marle paradox, the idea is that the entire region of earth there, with Chronopolis, shifted back to 12000 B.C. Anyone stepping in goes forward thousands of years. FATE's need to protect itself can be construed as something like simply wishing to keep the history of the world unprotected from its own influence, and Serge's revival of Lavos and the creation of Home World can have a much bigger impact more than killing anyone's grandfather. This thankfully does not put a causality loop at the heart of the matter, barely.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2007, 05:07:53 pm »
a.) Belthasar wouldn't allow FATE to kill his friends
b.) FATE has a history of the timeline Keystone T-1 but is not some omniscient demi-god or something
c.) FATE would have to send Lynx after him to kill him; it's not all-powerful
d.) FATE cares about El Nido; if someone else were messing with time, it's not FATE's concern unless the actions put FATE's existence in danger

Yes but if history was changed she would know. And I meant lynx would kill him(I thought it was implied). I know Belthasar wouldn't let it happen but Belthasar also wouldn't use Magus if he was to die in the end. I'm saying that Magus knows what he is doing, he follows Belthasar's plans so free Schala, he wouldn't want to take the risk of losing Schala. Or it could happen against FATE's permission.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2007, 08:28:35 am »
It is implied that he went to 12000 B.C.

Please enlighten me... When did it implied that he went to 12000B.C.?

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2007, 09:33:10 am »
at the end of chrono trigger. the snow all around him.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2007, 11:53:02 pm »
at the end of chrono trigger. the snow all around him.

Oh?  And what about the mountain behind Guardia?  Like I said before that the mountain behind Guardia Castle is strikingly similar the one that Magus' hover.  Furthermore,  the current 12,000 B.C. is madeup of archipelago & an island quarter of the size of the Zenan continent.  Lastly,  those islands cannot support such mountain ranges that long & big.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2007, 11:59:58 pm »
The only reason the mountains look like the one behind Guardia Castle is because technically, it's the same location in the rom as the scene with human Glenn standing on the catwalks.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2007, 12:05:16 am by Vehek »

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2007, 11:07:51 am »
hey Magus, you got some good points. I follow the belief of this:

Magus probably went to 12000 BC for a while to look for Schala. After a while, he probably lost some hope, and asked Crono & company for a ride to 2300 AD, or used magic to send him there.  One way he could do this is freeze himself to 2300, or just hitch a ride on Epoch. The Epoch is possible, because Lucca talks to him as a freind in the letter from Chrono Cross. So, assuming he gets there either way, he contacts Belthasar for some help, while Belthasar explains the whole thing {Time Devourer} along with the fact that Schala is part of it. Magus then borrows the Epoch from Lucca to work as a helper for Belthasar so he could help his sister {stepsister?}. Magus could then use the old Epoch to look after the parts of Project Kid, and return back to 2300 in order to get more details from Belthasar and to stay close to him in case of a FATE memory wipe.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2007, 03:54:05 pm »
I am smelling a whole lotta if.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2007, 05:26:53 pm »
I smell a question that cannot be answered without a Chrono sequel with Magus, or at least a Magus spin-off.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2007, 12:13:00 am »
I am smelling a whole lotta if.

Its true that its a lot of if but there's a logic behind my theory.

Quote from: Vehek
link=topic=4323.msg76049#msg76049 date=1182826798
The only reason the mountains look like the one behind Guardia Castle is because technically, it's the same location in the rom as the scene with human Glenn standing on the catwalks.

You have a point there, but why is it that the makers of CT chose that scene?  There's a lot of scenes in 12000 B.C. that they can use like the one in the northern cape.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2007, 12:22:11 am »
They didn't choose it for any specific reason. You're making a mountain out of a non-existant molehill here.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2007, 01:54:37 am »
They didn't choose it for any specific reason. You're making a mountain out of a non-existant molehill here.

Ah, I have to cite you there (because it's the second time). Existent. This is just the grammar peeve in me manifesting.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2007, 03:45:10 am »


Ah, I have to cite you there (because it's the second time). Existent. This is just the grammar peeve in me manifesting.
Righto. Existent. I'll keep it in mind.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2007, 08:49:28 am »
Quote from: Vehek
link=topic=4323.msg76049#msg76049 date=1182826798
The only reason the mountains look like the one behind Guardia Castle is because technically, it's the same location in the rom as the scene with human Glenn standing on the catwalks.

You have a point there, but why is it that the makers of CT chose that scene?  There's a lot of scenes in 12000 B.C. that they can use like the one in the northern cape.

The North Cape scene map is, like, the one they precisely choosed.

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Re: Magus' Time travel enigma solved!
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2007, 03:05:09 pm »
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The North Cape scene map is, like, the one they precisely choosed.

no actually north cape is a sunset over water