The Red Lucca Gate

[Sora]

i believe that it was created by lavos. after all, it is the only red gate (and red means bad) and also if lucca saves her mom she becomes less mature. i think lavos was trying to hit the party with an indirect attack. in doing this it shows that lavos is centinate and all knowing and seeing, kinda like Morganna Mode Gone in .hack.

[ZeaLitY]

Less mature? And it follows a discussion concerning the Entity. Lavos never exhibits this behavior or power in the entire series.

[Sora]

yea, i read that the 3rd entry of Lucca's dairy was written in first person to symbolize maturity, and if you save her mom it goes back to 3rd person, and why would the entity want to make Lucca dumber?

[Vehek]

No, according to Kwhazit's translation notes, it's neither first-person nor third-person when you save Lara's legs.

[Sora]

DAMN YOU TED! FOILED AGAIN!!

so that means that lucca doesnt actually get dumber when you save her mom?

also, why was that gate red? it was the only red gate in the game, right?

[AuraTwilight]

It was probably red because it was a one time only Gate, and I'm sure you could make some spiel about how, because of that, the Gate is of a lower wavelength, so it has a lower color in the spectrum or something.

[alpha]

 couple of things.. it is possible that lavos does not understand all the precepts of time travel and hence does not understand tiem travelers immunity meaning. he could have set it there so that history would have been changed.. she wouldnt have gotten so interested in machines and never built the telepod... thus ensuring the Lavos timeline to remain as it was. but he alos did not know that in allowing lucca to save her mother that the child would still become interested in machines to make sure it couldnt happen again

[DMagusEdwards]

As in, Lavos never brushed up on his reading here at the Compendium, and forgot to read about TTI?

[alpha]

right. And perhaps he did understand time travelers immunity but designed the gate so tht it did not invoke it.. or so that anything she changed in the past would rewrite history including the actions of chrono and crew. Or perhaps Teh original intention of the gate was to have her cause a turn of events that splintered reality in two creating a seperate timeline in which chrono and crew did not ever time travel. and because of his temporal nature......... see where this goes?

[Kebrel]

And perhaps he did understand time travelers immunity but designed the gate so tht it did not invoke it

Could lavos rewrite Chronotriggers law of physics.

[Radical_Dreamer]

And perhaps he did understand time travelers immunity but designed the gate so tht it did not invoke it

Could lavos rewrite Chronotriggers law of physics.

Lavos is a resident of the universe, and like everything else in the universe, is bound by it's laws.

[alpha]

This board has already established  that at least one gate was an exception to the conservation of time theorum... and that was a lavos created gate.( speaking of the large gate at magus castle which not only ported the party but also ported magus's castle to who knows where) And So if Lavos has the ability to create gates it is logical to assume that he has the capability of writing the laws of that gate

[Radical_Dreamer]

Not really. I'll provide an analogy. A computer programmer can make a piece of software, and is very free in what that software can do. However, there are constraints of the operating system and the hardware which cannot be overcome by any piece of software, so in this way the programmer is limited. The universe has laws, and everything in it is subject to those laws.

[Zaperking]

Well, the planet certainly isn't bound to any laws. If it traverses time, then it'd be dead at any given point until the EoT, unless Lavos never really killed it off.

[Radical_Dreamer]

The planet itself does not traverse time in any but the mundane single speed forward fashion we all do.