The Red Lucca Gate

[justin3009]

Probably wrong but wouldn't that sapling from 12,000 BC be the sprout for the forest in 1000 AD?  If that's the case and it had magical properties, maybe that's what caused the poral to appear?  Then again, that could probably be proven wrong and thrown out the window.

[Thought]

It is certainly implied that the sapling from 12,000 B.C. is the same as the sapling in 1000 A.D. but it is not explicitely stated. Given that you can't complete that side quest if the Lady in Zeal destorys the sappling, there is certainly a connection but the nature of that connection is unknown.

Certainly the magical powers of the sapling seems to be relevent to the discussion. It "saved the environment," Robo was able to use sap from trees in that forest to make the Green Dream, the forest is where we learn of the entity, Lucca's portal was there, and it may be (though there is no real evidence) that the Astral Amulet might contain a cutting from this forest/plant.

To note, however, referencing Placidchap's statement regarding deserts; deserts are fairly seldom devoid of life. Even Death Valley can be covered in flowers at times.

[V_Translanka]

I'm not really sure I'm ready to believe that it's just the forest's magical properties & Lucca's will that create the Red Gate...I think it IS interesting to note that the GreenDream that Robo creates & the wooden amulet that is the Astral Amulet both save things from death/danger and both, in essence, reverse time...the Red Gate thus could be extrapolated as being an extension of that power, though on a much, much larger scale and acting on a far lesser amount of danger (in fact no immediate danger at all)...>_>

Though perhaps it was simply an easier way for the Entity to step in, by increasing the magical properties of the forest. I think I could believe that much at least.

[maggiekarp]

I'm not saying it was the forest entirely, just that, if it was indeed the Entity, it had something there to work with instead of just whooshing a gate out of nowhere.

[placidchap]

Belthasar did it.

[BROJ]

Belthasar did it.

Given if that is true, the sapling would have to be a pseudo-time egg. (Think about it. A sapling is an organism that is just beginning its life cycle; so too is an egg. And given that it was a component in opening a space-time(Red) gate, it is rather uncanny. )

[V_Translanka]

Belthasar did it.

There ARE similarities there, I'll admit...Hmmm...

[MagilsugaM]

Someone know Paganism they belive that the earth the sun and the moon were "Gods".

[BROJ]

Belthasar did it.

There ARE similarities there, I'll admit...Hmmm...

I don't know if it's the point, but... that's Gaspar.

[Thought]

I don't know if it's the point, but... that's Gaspar.

The one on the left is Sarda (from 8-bit theatre) and the one on the left is infact Belthasar (Gaspar wore red).

Hmmm... the two are quite similar, especially around the 'stache.

[BROJ]

I don't know if it's the point, but... that's Gaspar.

The one on the left is Sarda (from 8-bit theatre) and the one on the left is infact Belthasar (Gaspar wore red).

Hmmm... the two are quite similar, especially around the 'stache.

Whoops! You're right; I had the wrong visual-name association at the time.

[placidchap]

It's alright, they are all cut from the same cloth anyway.  If you ask me, they are one super being split thrice.

[V_Translanka]

Um, I just used Sarda because he's "The Wizard That Did It", which in turn references the common game concept of using "A wizard did it" as a way to explain away plot holes & inconsistencies...plus, yeah, I noticed they both got that 'stache going...

[placidchap]

Um, I just used Sarda because he's "The Wizard That Did It", which in turn references the common game concept of using "A wizard did it" as a way to explain away plot holes & inconsistencies...plus, yeah, I noticed they both got that 'stache going...

Sounds like the entity.  Hm, so maybe the entity is a wizard.

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

maybe we have a multiverse here, and the entity is a beloved sage-like character from a completely different, unrelated game.  so translanka may be correct in thinking that its sarda!