Questions I'm still a bit fuzzy on

[Daggart]

I had a couple questions that have already been answered I'm sure, but it can be really hard for me to find consise replies in the threads, but I was a little confused about the conclusions reached.. Still they're important questions so I thought I'd put them in the same thread.

1) Lavos (Pocket Demension) -
   When it was destroyed was it destroyed from all time? If so, what affect does that have on our past and future timeline? Does time still record his emergences into our timeline?

2) (same as 1) Time Devourer -
   When it was destroyed, was it destroyed from all time? If so, what affect does that have on the past timeline?

3) More Time Travelers Immunity/Time Bastard-
   Say a man (Traveler A) went back in time 1000 years and changed the past. Afterwhich he returns to his present time, replacing his new self (the one changed by history) on the timeline. Then someone from his distant future (Traveler B) sees that time could have progressed differently if that never happened. Traveler B goes back in time and kills Traveler A while he's still in the past, before he can make the changes. Which version of history will Traveler A (present time) record? Will he revert back to the 'natural' Traveler A, the result of the current timeline's history? Or would he still be replaced by the original Traveler A, even though that one was killed in the past by Traveler B.

Gah, that last one was really hard for me to explain. Anyway, thats all I have. Thanks

[GreenGannon]

For #3, let me restate it to see if I understand it.

You have a time traveler, he's named A1.

A1 goes back in time and changes the past. He returns the present sending the new "A" or A2 to the Tesseract. Now that he's in the changed present we'll call him AX only from this point forward in time.

Next, we have traveler B

He goes back in time and kills A1 while he's changing the past.

If I understand this, you're asking what happens to AX.

I don't honestly know.

[Leebot]

What happens once B kills A1 is that time starts to rewrite itself from that point in the past. This means that a new entity, A3 will be created in the "present." This A3, like A1, will travel back to the past. This time, however, he will come into conflict with A1, who's already there, and A3 will be sent off to the DBT.

[GrayLensman]

3.)  Traveler A1 warps from 1000 AD to 600 AD, creating a new timeline.  The new version of the traveler, A2, is sent into the DBT (Darkness Beyond Time) the instant A1 originally left.  A1 warps back to 1000 AD, taking A2’s place.

Traveler B1 warps from 2300 AD to 600 AD and kills A1, creating a new timeline.  New versions of the travelers, A3 and B2, are sent into the DBT the moment their originals warped away.  In 1000 AD A1 emerges from his time portal into the new timeline.  B1 warps back to 2300 AD.

[SilentMartyr]

Wait, I'm confused. If B1 kills A1 how does A1 warp back to 1000 A.D.?

[GrayLensman]

Time Travelers are afforded immunity to changes to their past world lines.  Because A1 traveled to 1000 AD, he is unaffected by the death of his past self.

B1 only succeeded in killing a transitory version of A1, who would be destroyed due to Time Bastard anyway.

[SilentMartyr]

Time Travelers are afforded immunity to changes to their past world lines.  Because A1 traveled to 1000 AD, he is unaffected by the death of his past self.

B1 only succeeded in killing a transitory version of A1, who would be destroyed due to Time Bastard anyway.

But then going by that, Crono should have never died when Lavos fustigated him oin the ocean palace. Unless I am missing something here.

I'll tell you what is running through my head, maybe I am not seeing something in the correct way.

A1 goes back to 600, and B1 goes back to 600. B1 kills A1 in 600, but somehow A1 still manages to return to 1000. That is what I am understanding from what you are saying, and is also why I am confused.

[GrayLensman]

Unless time traveler B is waiting for A in 600 AD, B cannot attack A before he has returned to 1000 AD.  To an external observer, the new timeline will appear instantaniously.

[SilentMartyr]

Oh wow I get it now, haha. Okay I thought that B left at the same time as A for some odd reason. Thank for clearing that up, and with a pretty picture none the less

[Faulce]

Wait, when you say A' is sent to the DBT, you mean when A emerges from the gate in 1000 AD right? So A replaces A'. To me it sounded like A' never exists, even in the new timeline - so i am just checking.

[SilentMartyr]

Yes that is correct.