Plausible way of saving Schala in CT

[Teflon]

Upon close inspection, I found that they are cracked Time Eggs!  (Hence the name "Krakker") !

*FACEPALM*

[Peaceman]

Ya know what?  We should just drop this conversation.  We aren't getting anywhere, except me losing self-esteem.  

[GreenGannon]

Isn't "Krakker/Cracker" a slang term for white people, as "nigger" is to blacks?

[Radical_Dreamer]

Cracker is, yes. It's also a term applied to malicious hackers, to seperate them from non-malicious hackers.

[Peaceman]

I always thought it was "cracka" (for the black people slang)....

[V_Translanka]

Ya know what?  We should just drop this conversation.  We aren't getting anywhere...

I second that, especially since now you guys are going into incredulously off-topic discussions...

[Peaceman]

Exactly.  
Yay!  Someone's on MY side for once!

[Hiroshino]

About the whole theory, I mean, it's nice and all but there are some things to consider. For one, after the incident at the Ocean Palace and all that, you never see Schala again, right? To get a clone, wouldn't you need the original person to see (ahh I can't spell his name, the face and hands dude at the fair in that tent where you get the clone of Crono from) whoever to get the clone from?

But let's say that you do manage to get yourself a clone, you could actually do this after destroying the Black Omen and doing all of those quests and shit, but before actually beating Lavos. The reason why I say you should do everything, including the destruction of the Black Omen but not Lavos is because; one, Schala also became one with the Black Omen or something or another...I think, and the other obvious reason is because as long as Lavos is alive in 1999 A.D. to cause the Apocalypse, you'll have a bleak Future to go to and a Death Peak to go to, to do the whole Time Egg/Clone switchy/Revive/Thingy.

Now, when all you have to do is beat Lavos, and you have yourself the clone, however you managed to pull this all off, let us continue. Go to the End of Time and consult with Gaspar, and you'll all talk, yada yada yada, you know the drill. If Gaspar can make Chrono Trigger/Time Egg, he can definately make another one with the same effects. So, however long it takes, and when you finally have yourself the the Chrono Trigger/Time Egg, take the Epoch and go to the Future so you can go to Death Peak.

Now, with business taken care of, you would need a certain point in which to go to, so you can freeze that moment and make the switch with Schala's real body and the clone of Schala, and it all has to fit in accordingly so as to not mess up the Space Time Continuum Theory or whatever it's called and not to cause any possible paradoxes. A good time would be after Schala teleports the remainder of Crono's party and Magus to a safe place, but before anything else major happens. With this moment frozen, make the switch, and get the hell out of there.

No before you try and contradict this, let me explain some more stuff out. How could this happen if Schala supposedly becomes part of the Black Omen or whatever? Well, quite simple, the clone of Schala would go and become part of it or whatever or be sent to wherever the real Schala was intended to be sent. Nobody would know what happened because nobody would witness Schala out of no where, becoming some stiff clone of herself. And besides, the Black Omen gets destroyed and Queen Zeal was too busy with immortality and ultimate power to care what was going on with the remains of the Ocean Palace, during and after the Ocean Palace incident.

Now, back at Death Peak, Schala is back. Return to the End of Time, have your little get together reunion and all, and go beat Lavos since that would be the last task to do. Once Lavos is defeated, the world is at peace, and Belthasar, in the peaceful Future, would discover the Frozen Flame but Schala would have nothing to do with it since she was saved..unless her fake clone was intigrated with the Frozen Flame..or something. Well, now needing no project to free Schala, since she would technically be free, there's no Time Crash, and the future can continue on as it is.

If there's anything wrong with this, don't be surprised, because I expect there to be HUGE mistakes in this, but it was something I had just came up with and thought I'd share it for the topic at hand.

BTW: Why in the hell would you call somebody a "newb" just because they are sharing a possible theory with the Compendium? I don't see the logic...who cares if the theory is crazy or whatever you want to call it? Oh, so now we can't post off the wall theories for fun without somebody judging us by calling us a "newb" to try and make us feel stupid?? Wow, you must feel really cool now. Well, whatever. There's my two cents.

[Frisko]

Japanese version of CT enlightens that they're actually baby Lavoses.

Let me see if I've got this straight your saying that krakkers are baby lavos according to the Japanese version?  If so, could you get me(and everyone else) the exact qoute?

[ZeaLitY]

Can't at this time. I'm going off the faith of Hyena20. Her other translations have proved accurate when compared by Arc Impulse, so there shouldn't be a problem.

[Zaperking]

HiroShino,

I like your idea, my only 2 parts to say are this:

1) If you're going to use a time egg on Schala, It'd be on the timeline that Crono interfered with. In this timeline, Schala does not die. I'm guessing that the time egg only brings back those who are outside the flow of time. I think Gaspar quoted that. Also, Gaspar did say that to activate the time egg, you can't just always go to Death Peak, but you have to be at a special place and time for the Chrono Trigger to work.
And even if you did save Schala, then the clone would merge with Lavos and make a plushy Time Devourer ^.^; That'd be soo cool!

2) Belthasar would still make Chronopolis. Why? He'd want to travel back in time to be with Schala. Or maybe he'd start up another Project, maybe something on the likes of "Project Zeal" where he would go back to Zeal, stop the Queen from ever awakening Lavos, Zeal exists then in 1999AD the world still has Zeal in it, Belthasar makes Crono and co defeat it, and there we go, Zeal is glorious forever. lol.

Those are my thoughts... Sleepy now... It's 1:12AM, Goodnight all

[fxar99]

How to get yourslef a Time Egg from Gaspar   :

It isn't logic that Epoch can travel only to the eras that the party has visited. So, let's say that we can travel anywhere in time, but in the game we select only the "important" ones (65000000, 12000, 600, 1000, 1999, 2300). If we can travel to any moment, we can travel to the Kingdom of Zeal, some time after Gaspar started making the Time Egg but before ending up to the End of Time. Then, we meet Gaspar, we introduce ourselves, take him somewhere else and ask him to finish the Time Egg.

If we send him back to his era, however, we won't have another Egg for Crono. So, we must do this while Crono is alive and hasn't ever died.

However, there's no need to go to the Death Peak, even to get a Time Egg, since we have Epoch and we can hide Schala, so the destruction never happens. Then, she is so thankful that we have saved her from a certain death and so she joins our team   (just joking, I've read the Extra PCs).

[AuraTwilight]

And even if you did save Schala, then the clone would merge with Lavos and make a plushy Time Devourer ^.^; That'd be soo cool!

I'd just have to say no, since a clone wouldn't have energy to feed off or whatever it was Lavos wanted from Schala. And frankly, Schala is fine in the end anyway, so there's no point in going through this whole run around ^_^

[Lord_Setheris]

If Belthasar was THAT set on saving Schala, than we already know that his caring for her is incredible. Surely he could have recovered Magus from the dark ages. With the two of them and a time egg, it would have been easy to save Schala. All you'd have to do is go to the moment right before the rubble crushed her, and replace her with a clone then. Or, you might not even need a clone, since all witnesses were unconcious or about to be dead anyways.

To instead go the long way of engineering the Time Crash seems utterly insane to me. If you saved Schala then she would have never found Serge, the TD would likely have never had existed, the Time Crash would never have to occur, Porre wouldn't become a power, Lavos would be defeated on schedule, and Magus/Schala would be able to just get on with their lives. And, given that the time crash never occurred, it is likely that Serge would have died, and there would be no kid, so everything would work out fine. Or, if Kid did exist, she would now be completely seperate than Schala and be able to live freely. Lucca would have lived since there was no Lynx or Harlequin, and without the Porre takeover, Kid would have grown up under the loving care of Lucca and she would have completed her time egg research. This, of course, would be the time egg Belthasar would use.

Following this series of events, the timeline remains stable, and incredibly non-complex. And all you'd need to do is grab Schala and escape either before the roof collapsed on you (i give it 1.8 seconds) or in a frozen time era, such as where you found Crono.

Actually, now that I think about it, Serge would probably never have been born since El Nido never existed.


AND furthermore, since the time egg lucca created would be used by belthasar, there never would have been one in 2400 AD, and so, even if they did pursue experiments in time, it is unlikely they would have ever come close to reaching a kind of time-crash needed power.

If that never occurred, the Prometheus circuit would never have been integrated into FATE, and so Robo would probably be alive to.

To engineer the events of CC seems ubelievably foolish given this simple alternative. Besides, I'm sure Gaspar and Melchior would have been more than willing to aid Schala. Surely between them all they could have used the time egg.

It might have been hard to find a place TO use it, but they could simply change a minor event, such as moving the unconious Robo to... idk, behind a ruin somewhere, where the CT would have never found him and therefore never reached the end of time, ensuring a destroyed future so they could use Death Peak. Then they'd just move Robo back and BOOM! the future is saved.

[AuraTwilight]

But see, the problem with that is that Schala is already fused with the Time Devourer, which is outside of time, so even if you could save Schala from the Ocean Palace incident, the one you brought back would probably be erased by Time Bastard Theory and you still have to worry about a giant apocalyptic monster threatening to eat all time-space.