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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #165 on: December 02, 2008, 02:02:20 am »
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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #166 on: December 02, 2008, 04:41:02 am »
checked in.

Removed Magus/Frog scene from ending.  Did some tweaking of final dungeon.

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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #167 on: December 02, 2008, 02:08:26 pm »
Alright, I'll polish Chapter 8 now.

I also updated part of the plot page, up to Chapter 18 (that's a large enough chunk to work with for now). Note that I wrote that the boss in "Stop the Porre Lab" should say something before he dies that make the party realize that he was actually Coyopa, the Xamoltan time traveler (who appeared in the human 1002 A.D. due to TTI, but we don't have to mention TTI). Porre captured him and mutated him as part of their experiments. That's a more decent ending for Coyopa, instead of having Belthasar say that they "took care of him" offscreen.

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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #168 on: December 02, 2008, 03:10:07 pm »
I thought the 3 reptites fates were:

1 on top of Terra Tower
1 moved to 65 MIL BC lived peacefully
1 died in central regime

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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #169 on: December 02, 2008, 03:20:05 pm »
Coyopa dies at Dinopolis in the alternate 1002 A.D. but according to the Time Traveler Immunity theory he should still appear in 1002 A.D. even when the human timeline is restored. The old plot had Belthasar saying at the end of the Reptite chapters that Chronopolis agents "took care of him".
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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #170 on: December 03, 2008, 04:46:23 am »
I see, just so you know I wasn't sure if the above....above above post meant you were "checking out the rom".  In the future if you dont explicitly say the words "check out" i'm going to assume the rom is up for grabs.

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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #171 on: December 03, 2008, 05:21:25 am »
"Check out" then :wink:

However, I have no problem if you just grab the ROM and post a patch even when I'm working on another one. I would patch my changes on the version you post, using Flux files. It's easy enough and we may save time this way.

The only times I guess I will completely reserve the ROM is when I do hard changes like palette or graphic imports, but I'm currently not.

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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #172 on: December 05, 2008, 01:31:13 am »
I'm not sure you're oging to check in :)

I'll take you up on your offer i guess and check out while you have it checked out, "checked out"

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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #173 on: December 05, 2008, 03:55:48 am »
check in

Zeality sent me dialogue for chapter 10 and 11.  I've inserted it but haven't polished it.  Before we release we'll have to make a cutscene for the Robot Commander talking to Lucca and Robo (it's a little lengthy).

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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #174 on: December 05, 2008, 05:23:23 am »
Aha, sorry, I'm polishing the Reptite Factory (Huacan Factory) and trying to make the levers change visually when you push them in the conveyor belt room.

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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #175 on: December 05, 2008, 07:12:29 pm »
In this patch, I polished most of Chapter 9, up to Huacan Factory. That place was large! There was even an empty room in it for some reason, so I added a save point there. I also changed the coordinates of the locations on the overworld so that it's not so much based on the CT ruined future locations. Dinopolis on the overworld is now made of tiles from Guardia Castle (see screenshot). It's the easiest way I found to make it look the same in both alt 1 A.D. and alt 2305 A.D.

Now I'll finish up Chapter 9, and then I plan to reverse the order of it and Chapter 8 (which I haven't polished yet), because there's no point in seeing the alternate future if Crono/Magus/Glenn have already reverted it (in the plot outlines it was always in this order).

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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #176 on: December 05, 2008, 07:15:36 pm »
I think the reason why the chapter order was reversed was so that Crono/Glenn/Magus could do stuff in Dinopolis that would affect Lucca & Robo's trip in it. For example, you can flip a switch to change the path on the path CMG take if Marle hit a particular switch. Also, there was supposed to be a key that opens a door to an optional boss; you can only get the key if CMG defeated some enemies.

Edit:
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=2841.0
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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #177 on: December 05, 2008, 07:28:52 pm »
Yea the order change is by design. 

Dinopolis in the future is directly dependent by what happens in the past. 

--JP

EDIT:  I really like that aspect of Dinopolis so I'd have to be stubborn again about keeping that temporal connection between those chapters.  It's one of the parts where you can see what happens in the past affecting the future which i think the fans like.
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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #178 on: December 05, 2008, 07:34:12 pm »
But it makes literally no sense plotwise. The only point of Chapter 9, and 7 in a way, was to have the player think that Marle, Lucca and Robo "lose" in their quests, only to have Crono/Glenn/Magus save them without even knowing it, by undoing the whole timeline and regrouping with other versions of Marle, Lucca and Robo. Once CGM do it the Reptite timeline doesn't exist anymore.

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Re: Another Topic To Find The Rom
« Reply #179 on: December 05, 2008, 07:42:04 pm »
.....hm......

What if CMG lose and get put in a dungeon at the end of their chapter.....transitions to Robo/Lucca and then cuts back to CMG escape from the dungeon and get to the top of Dinopolis?

This would serve two purposes:

We can assure that the player finds Marle's pendant.  Which I think Zeality wanted anyways cause he likes the ides of Crono finding out marle died
I get to keep my dungeon :)


--JP