Gate Color Theory.

[Kebrel]

Hmmm...Y'know, when you think about it, the Green Lavos Gate isn't like the other Gates in another manner...on-screen it doesn't appear as a Gate, ready to be opened, like the others...but, in fact, is only a tiny sparkle...

Then wouldn't that make the bucket at the end of time also in the green category?

[V_Translanka]

Maybe the fact that it's in a bucket instead of on a Telepod (hey, there's an idear, it could have interacted w/the Telepod!) changes the sparkle?

[MagilsugaM]

I think that the Compendium's basic stance plot-wise in that you face Lavos via the first Black Omen...though I think that you've got to plow the Epoch into his hide, myself...But, anyways, you defeat Lavos in his PD, so then everything it did is undone...or, wait, no...well, whatever, we don't know that he destroys EVERYTHING when you're able to fight Lavos in 1999AD...that was just the start.

True because if you defeat Lavos in 1999 he already destroyed everything 

[V_Translanka]

Your words are bad. You should desist from short posts because you hardly ever have them make sense. To avoid confusion, make longer posts & draw out your explanations. As is, your post looks like you're simultaneously agreeing & disagreeing w/my post that you quoted...

[Anacalius]

Your words are bad. You should desist from short posts because you hardly ever have them make sense. To avoid confusion, make longer posts & draw out your explanations. As is, your post looks like you're simultaneously agreeing & disagreeing w/my post that you quoted...

I was posting something very similar to this, went to post and it said "A new reply has been posted", so I'm glad I checked. =P

[MagilsugaM]

I don't understand why when you travel to 1999 Lavos came out from the ground, destroy everything and after that you beat him but you didn't save the future cuz' is already destroyed. Or I am wrong?

[V_Translanka]

Well, that's why I was saying, "WAS everything destroyed?" I mean, basically, we just know that he seems to do a little world-wide Destruction Rains From the Heavens or w/e...Is that one attack enough to destroy everything? I mean, it's not like it activates the scene you usually see when you game over & see the Doan's ancestor, the dome director guy say everything's fuct...I think at that point, things are bad, but not unmanageable...

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

Yeah, it may not destroy EVERYTHING, but it definently causes some MAJOR damage.  If you look closely you can see that any spot within a dome that the Destructive Rains hit, it causes the sprite to change to a damaged sprite.

Did that make sense?

I have a theory that the attack is an attack with thermonuclear aspects.  That way that would help explain the degredation of all plant life and the sort by the time 2300 AD comes around.  Granted, that IS just speculation on my part...

[Anacalius]

Yeah, it may not destroy EVERYTHING, but it definently causes some MAJOR damage.  If you look closely you can see that any spot within a dome that the Destructive Rains hit, it causes the sprite to change to a damaged sprite.

Did that make sense?

I have a theory that the attack is an attack with thermonuclear aspects.  That way that would help explain the degredation of all plant life and the sort by the time 2300 AD comes around.  Granted, that IS just speculation on my part...

Sounds reasonable to me. It also works to answer the question "Why didn't the people who survive try to rebuild in the 300 years after the Lavos attack?" I mean, seriously, if their civilization was destroyed, and they had the potential to build it back, why didn't they? Why haven't they even TRIED? But yeah, under your theory, maybe they did try, only to find that their resources for doing so have been destroyed as well.

Did any of that make any sense? (o.o);

[VincentGAU8]

Yes, nobody was really hindering them from rebuilding, unless  Lavos still lingered on the planet's surface and undermined humanity's efforts in reconstruction, or probably it was the Mother Brain and her robots who did that..

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

Or perhaps BOTH!

[Thought]

Or perhaps at that point Lavos' drain on the planet was preventing life itself from flourishing. Even in a nuclear winter, one would expect some life to survive (look at 12000 BC, even after aeons of cloud cover there were still some trees growing under the snow).

I always took the general sickness of the humans in 2300 to be Lavos related, at least.

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

That would make sense, actually.  Assuming that the Planet seems to have a life force (in the Lavos theorem I am working on I discuss how the planetoid has a life force), that would make sense.

[VincentGAU8]

Indeed.. i never saw even a single plant or tree anywhere on the 2300 map and locations..
but how come humanity still persisted for three hundred years after the Apocalypse if that were truly the case?
If there were no more plants and other natural resources, then they would have not survived that long.. without any greenery, humanity would be driven to immediate extinction...

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

Well I assume that there was still SOME plant life, mostly just shrubbery and the sort.  For instance, we do see a few scattered (and dead dead looking) tree's and shrubs on Death Peak. 

For the humans who were able to survive for the 301 year interval between 1999 ADand 2300 AD, there was obviously an increase to the amount of "meat" consumed.

Perhaps the degradation of the planet (and plants) was a gradual process after the Day of Lavos.  Taking dozens - maybe one or two hundred years - before the world was finally laid to rest in it's deathly state.  During those 301 years the people must've been able to SLOWLY adapt to the changes and find alternates to survive.

I was just thinking, Doan thought that the seeds could grow (and it may have sprouted; I can't remember), so that seems to me that there's still the likelihood that plants would still be capable of growing in 2300 AD.