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« Reply #600 on: January 03, 2006, 09:49:25 pm »
You'd of course have to lower Glenn's ability from its high-level Lavos-combating magnitude to fit him in the game, even though he doesn't undergo a similar ordeal to what the rest of the team has to deal with; having him a few levels higher than the rest of the party when he's obtained can help with getting that point across.

Apocryphal quotes are a good idea.  It could lead to some funny stuff.  

Quote from: Glenn
I never said that!


Quote from: Unsuspecting moron
...hey, wait a second...


Quote from: Glenn
Uh, verily I just remembered that I hath left a cake in the oven!  Fare thee well!


Quote from: Unsuspecting moron
...in the what?


I've got an image of my head of the Zefram Cochrane sequences from Star Trek: First Contact:

Quote from: Zefram Cochrane
I don't wanna be a statue!


The style of dialogue in the main story of the game is a difficult thing to work out.  For the most part, I believe it should retain the general feel of CT's dialogue, save for replacing some of the comic-book-style villainous grandstanding with something more actually evil.  The feel of the game overall is a bit darker, but the word choices and the tone of voice should end up being just as reflective of the team's character as the lighter dialogue of CT.

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« Reply #601 on: January 08, 2006, 11:32:58 am »
Hmm, last time I go on vacation. I've got a bit to catch up upon.

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« Reply #602 on: January 10, 2006, 03:44:20 am »
I'll send everyone who's still working on the project the master story outline.  There's a few adjustments in it, but nothing incredibly major.  This version of the outline contains the storyline in its entirety from the beginning all the way to the final battle, with the exception of a couple of side quests.  The ending still needs to be worked on, but that'll keep people updated.  Just PM or AIM me for a copy.

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« Reply #603 on: January 10, 2006, 05:35:34 am »
Thank you! I was afraid I'd have to start surfing through old threads...

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« Reply #604 on: January 12, 2006, 05:35:10 am »
OK, critical moment here.  Is replacing Ayla or Frog with Human Glenn posssible.  We will shortly be coming to the 600 AD segment.  

Programmer input:  Atleast for now it would make more sense to replace with Glenn over schala because we currently can't do custom techs and we can atleast salvage a decent amount of Frog's techs to Glenn.

Of course as we all know Ayla and Frog are both "short" during running sequences which I assume will cause problems.  We need to know what can be done.

--jp

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« Reply #605 on: January 12, 2006, 11:05:38 am »
Well, if push comes to shove, I'm for making Schala shorter; she looked rather kiddish in Chrono Cross anyway.  Under the circumstances in which she's acquired, it wouldn't surprise either the characters or the players if some features of her physical form have been altered.  Glenn, by contrast, needs to be human, or there's no point in including him.

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« Reply #606 on: January 12, 2006, 04:09:10 pm »
Just wanted to note that there was no attachment to the email I got today concerning the plot.  It seems it's the same for JossiRossi.

--jp

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« Reply #607 on: January 12, 2006, 04:24:01 pm »
About the whole Ayla-Glenn-Frog-Schala thing... I'm still more for Glenn replacing Ayla, rather than Schala. A very short picture would just look contrived and odd - though she might in truth be short, the sprite in the original didn't appear so, so to shrink it makes it look like a cut corner. About Ayla's running sprite being smaller... well, can one not then make Glenn in a similar fashion, hunched over at least. He was a frog for so very long, there's probably some of that left in him. I don't know... as neat as Schala would be, I've still heavily on the Glenn side. Personally, I think the best solution, if both are no implementable, is to poll all those involved in the project, and see what the general concensus is.

Oh, and about the email... is that all there is? Just those few changes? Or were you going to send the entire story?

Regarding the changes, though... two things. Firstly, Kasmir is, I think, a very good name change from Serran. But secondly... I'd be wary about calling the bioweapon Geddon. The reason is, remember the Tower of Gheddon in Cross? Yeah, it might have an h in there, but it's the same name. For that reason I'd be a little wary. Maybe some other Revalations reference? Apollyon, which is 'Destroyer', maybe? Or, if you want the whole last-battle reference, it would be better not to splice the name at such an point, taking Armageddon and taking geddon from it, as though that was the second part to the name. It's Ar-mageddon, after all, or Har-Megiddo. In that case, if you want something similar to Geddon, I'd sugest Megiddo.

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« Reply #608 on: January 12, 2006, 04:45:15 pm »
Perhaps Glenn can float akin to Magus now, at an extreme angle.

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« Reply #609 on: January 12, 2006, 04:53:18 pm »
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Perhaps Glenn can float akin to Magus now, at an extreme angle.


You see, I rather like that. It makes him look really swift. Not just running around, but incredibly fleet-footed. A super-hero of the middle-ages, so to speak (which, in a sense, he is. After all, how many knights could use magic?)

Oh, and Hadriel, I wrote this to you in a reply email, but here's the suggestion so that everyone can see:
Hey, here's a suggestion, something that could just be an off-hand remark, maybe, just a background thing... you could make an order or caste amongst the people the Kerubim (maybe from this Marle gets that bow by a similar name?), which is more phonetical, I think, for Cherubim. You could just have one of them refer to having the Malakh-ar Kerubim stand watch for whatever reason, maybe in the middle of their deliberations. Maybe, when they are asked for aid, one of the council, or whoever, could say something to the effect that 'the sleepless eyes of the Malakh-ar Kerubim will stand watch over these happenings, and give us report of all that passes on the surface of this little kingdom' (oh, by the way, double influence there. The 'sleepless eyes' came to me thinking of the old hymn which says 'At His feet the six-winged Seraph / Cherubim with sleepless eye...'; and the 'little kingdom' reference for the earth came from Tolkien's Silmarillion, where, when the Valar are engaged in war with the Dark Lord Melkor, it says that Tulkas the Strong - later to become on the Valar - heard from far away that there was war in the Little Kingdom, ie. Arda, or the Earth.) Anyway, tell me what you think of it. I'll post it on the forums so that everyone can consider this. It wouldn't be anything major, I don't think, just a cryptic single line to add something unexplained to the ordering of these ancient people.
Like I said, not much, just a single line. But I think it would work.

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« Reply #610 on: January 13, 2006, 02:15:12 am »
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Just wanted to note that there was no attachment to the email I got today concerning the plot.  It seems it's the same for JossiRossi.

--jp


Bah, my Internet failx0rz.  I'll send it again.

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« Reply #611 on: January 13, 2006, 02:22:21 am »
Any opinions on my idea?

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« Reply #612 on: January 13, 2006, 02:13:27 pm »
Resend it to me as well Hadriel.

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« Reply #613 on: January 13, 2006, 07:28:19 pm »
Shit, did anyone get it?

ARRRGGHHH...

I'm already pissed off today.  I'll try resending it again after a while, provided I'm not drunk, dead or in jail for venting my anger on a random hobo.

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« Reply #614 on: January 13, 2006, 07:55:15 pm »
If you re-sent I still haven't gotten it. (And didn't get it the first time naturally)

Likely options are you accidentally forgot to actually add the file to the email, or it was possibly removed by your email service if it thought it was infected with a virus.