Author Topic: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??  (Read 1074 times)

Anthony_Audi

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What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« on: April 29, 2008, 12:10:50 pm »
I'm a little confused were these side games that people just decided to make or will they be part of the big game that is being developed?

These 2 games were freakin amazing but they were short are we going to see the next chapters in these 2 games or maybe a full game with a completely different story line called
Chrono Trigger Crimson Echoes 2? or Chrono Trigger Prophets Guile??

What happened to Crimson Echoes 1?

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2008, 06:16:52 pm »
as far as i know theyre working on completing CE
but as for PG... theeeres not much else you can add to it
its tied to the original game pretty nicely

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2008, 11:23:43 pm »
why would PG just end the way it did...shouldnt there be a little more to it?

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 11:32:54 pm »
There is...chrono trigger

Jp

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2008, 02:31:09 am »
Like I believe may have been said before...someone should hack Prophet's Guile INTO Chrono Trigger...somehow...? Maybe? No?

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2008, 03:08:29 am »
I should be awesome that with Magus after PG you kill Crono and friends. Steal the gate key, go to 600 AD, join Ozze Flea and Slash and Kill Lavos with them...

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2008, 11:33:03 am »
Like I believe may have been said before...someone should hack Prophet's Guile INTO Chrono Trigger...somehow...? Maybe? No?


YES!

That deserves it's own thread, I think.
PG is the coolest hack I've ever seen.

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2008, 02:04:17 pm »
I'm wondering how much material from the main CT game had to be overwritten to implement the environments and events in Prophet's Guile. For example, I sorta overwrote the Courtroom Scene environment to get the ending pic working  :mrgreen:. However, we presumably wouldn't need that ending pic, nor the credits section if inserting Magus' chapter into CT.

For those interested in implementing V's suggestion, it will be necessary to review the Prophet's Guile team's notes and comments in the Prophet's Guile forum to assess the amount of this type of overlap that occurred. That's one aspect of determining the technical feasibility of such a project.

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2008, 02:48:20 pm »
Well I'm pretty sure that most of Zeal was "overwritten" instead of added to to make prophets Guile.  It is certainly possible to have just added it and make sure EVERYTHING is in some sort of conditional.  The new maps (the beast mountain and lake) would have to have been put in the programmer's room maps probably and I dont think they were.

So yes it can be done but it would have been better if it would have been planned from the beginning.  Adding the coliseum to the game which was just one room took quite a bit of work and we ended up scrapping some rooms from the programmers ending to do it. 

--JP

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2008, 08:50:28 pm »
It'd be a project, that's for sure. Definitely wouldn't be a simple task.
Question here is:
"Is it worth taking the time to do this, or focus energy on more expansions of the Chrono Universe?"

I'd vote for a PG insertion to CT, but that's just me.
Hell, I'd even be willing to help out, since I loved PG so much, but it'd have to be after I get my comp fixed. What's everyone else think?

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2008, 09:03:06 pm »
why would PG just end the way it did...shouldnt there be a little more to it?

There is...chrono trigger

Jp


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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2008, 09:49:40 pm »
when i said should there be more too it
i meant
why didnt the coders make a longer storyline to the little game
that game is amazing and it would have been cool to see the story go a little more in depth with PG


as far as crimson echoes whats going on with that how far into the game are the coders?

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Re: What happened to Crimson Echoes 2 and Prophet Guile??
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2008, 11:30:42 pm »
when i said should there be more too it
i meant
why didnt the coders make a longer storyline to the little game
that game is amazing and it would have been cool to see the story go a little more in depth with PG


as far as crimson echoes whats going on with that how far into the game are the coders?

There isn't a lot of time between Magus showing up and Chrono's team appearing.

EDIT: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,5345.msg94817.html#msg94817
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