Poll

Okay, you guys. Who would win in a free-for-all?

Crono (CT)
12 (35.3%)
Cloud (FF7)
0 (0%)
Sephiroth (FF7)
8 (23.5%)
Magus (CT)
7 (20.6%)
Serge (CC)
7 (20.6%)

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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2008, 09:53:54 pm »
What about Saga frontier? No one talks about that game anymore. Or Front Mission. Seriously, wheres the giant mech love?


XENOSAGA SUCKS! Worst Movie i've ever seen :lol:
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #46 on: May 30, 2008, 09:58:24 pm »
Them's fightin' words, Tact. :wink: Unless you're talking about Xenosaga Episodes II and, to a significant extent, III, in which case I completely agree with you. The first Xenosaga had some general gameplay issues, but for the most part was a true work of art IMO at least. When the project was taken away from Takahashi and Soraya Saga, it took a giant nosedive.
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2008, 12:26:18 am »
Quote from: FaustWolf on May 30, 2008, 09:58:24 pm
Them's fightin' words, Tact. :wink: Unless you're talking about Xenosaga Episodes II and, to a significant extent, III, in which case I completely agree with you. The first Xenosaga had some general gameplay issues, but for the most part was a true work of art IMO at least. When the project was taken away from Takahashi and Soraya Saga, it took a giant nosedive.


Faaaah... I just didn't like the overall 2 minutes of actual gameplay each game had... I liked the first one, but I really couldn't care for the second installment and i didn't even bother picking up the third.

And I still can't piece together it's relation to Xenogears. Perhaps I'm Retarded?
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2008, 01:33:41 am »
The first episode of Xenosaga led me to believe that it might just be a Xenogears prequel. Then Episodes II and III utterly annihilated the possibility of a direct connection due to certain major inconsistencies with Xenogears: Episode I as presented in Perfect Works, Takahashi's vision for the Xenogears series. Since Square Enix still holds the rights to Xenogears (I think?) and Takahashi was working for Monolithsoft, I guess he was prevented from "stealing" the intellectual property he himself left in Square's hands, and used the opportunity to "reboot" his vision. Xenogears is essentially dead -- the intellectual property will not be developed any more in an "official" capacity.

But there is yet hope for Xenogears. Despite being utterly weird story-wise IMHO, Xenosaga Episode III left us with beautiful models of young Lacan, the Zohar, numerous characters, and a bunch of nice-looking mechs, one of which is essentially Weltall from Xenogears. Hm, hm, hm. I can dream at least.
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2008, 01:36:55 am »
Something compeletely off topic That I just remembered: I used to have a cardboard box that I wrote "XENOGEAR" in big letters on when I was about 7. For almost a straight week I didn't leave home without it. I would walk through public with it on my head and I would sneak into my mom and my brothers room and scare the living crap out of them in the middle of the night.

I miss that thing.
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2008, 01:49:41 am »
That would have been worth a Kodak moment. :lol:
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2008, 02:38:23 am »
 :lol:

While considering the abilities of all fighters (OMFG WHY AIN'T POSHUL AND PIP IN THERE?!) I'd say several have shown their best, unlike Magus. Cloud is a great character pulling off his best at everything, a very agile and strong character. However, Sephiroth was far superior. But he only managed to be a "Bad ass" due to Jenova transformation and blah blah black materia and blah blah. Cloud won with the help of his comrades. Serge is an a-okay character, that doesn't fall behind and is good enough. XD But he isn't the strongest, either. Now Crono, on the other hand is an excellent swordsman, dishing out furious attacks skillfully (Akira's imagination!) and summoning heavenly excellent lightning magic at an outrageously young age!! O_O

And now it's time for Magus. Seriously, you people must've noticed. As an in-game (or story character) he seemed heckuva lot powerful. Yeah, the elemental barriers, turning people to frog, casting unbreakable ice-magic to petrify people, and instantly killing spells, etc. But when you PLAY him as a character, he has none of it. -.- Just the 3 basic elements and 3 shadow spells, with magic wall as supportive. Kinda seems like he's hiding his TRUE power no matter what the f*** the opponent gives. >.> Lol! That's entirely the reason why I think he's really scary and powerful. So I vote for him. xD
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2008, 03:40:00 am »
Quote from: tushatin
But when you PLAY him as a character, he has none of it. -.- Just the 3 basic elements and 3 shadow spells, with magic wall as supportive. Kinda seems like he's hiding his TRUE power no matter what the f*** the opponent gives. >.> Lol! That's entirely the reason why I think he's really scary and powerful. So I vote for him. xD

You only get Magus playable after Lavos seemingly drains his energy, which explains some of his skills needing to be relearned...but, yeah, RD showed that he learned a few new tricks along the way as well...
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2008, 12:32:33 pm »
Quote from: V_Translanka on June 01, 2008, 03:40:00 am
You only get Magus playable after Lavos seemingly drains his energy, which explains some of his skills needing to be relearned...but, yeah, RD showed that he learned a few new tricks along the way as well...

He managed to avoid the Leeches, didn't he?
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2008, 06:39:36 am »
Quote from: x_XTacTX_x on June 01, 2008, 12:32:33 pm
Quote from: V_Translanka on June 01, 2008, 03:40:00 am
You only get Magus playable after Lavos seemingly drains his energy, which explains some of his skills needing to be relearned...but, yeah, RD showed that he learned a few new tricks along the way as well...

He managed to avoid the Leeches, didn't he?
  :mrgreen: I agree to that. BUT even after Lavos drained his energy he fights once again, and at that time he HAS spells like elemental barrier which are not obtainable in-game.  :wink: Now explain that.
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2008, 03:07:06 pm »
What do you mean? When he fights again when?
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2008, 03:19:26 pm »
I'm guessing the fight on the bluffs. when you choose whether or not to get him. I've been wrong before though. I don't recall him using the barriers in that fight.
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2008, 03:23:41 pm »
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he doesn't...a 1-on-1 would be next to impossible for Frog or Marle to win if he had his Water Magic barrier...>_> But anyways, even if he did it could be explained because it's non-canon to fight Magus there...but I'm pretty sure he just uses Magic he can learn...
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2008, 09:47:04 pm »
We were actually referring to Radical Dreamers, wheras Magil he uses many spells not available to him in CT. My guess would either be more time spent studying magics, or new spells learned while in El Nido.
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Re: CT-CC-FF7
« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2008, 02:40:02 am »
Uh, I don't think Radical Dreamers happened in El Nido...But yeah, there are characters that have shown abilities outside of battle that they can't or don't use in battle as well...
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