Dunno if this should go here...but random question.

[Redlandsman87]

Please note that I am in no way asking for ROMs, links to sites with ROMs, links to reproduction sites, etc etc. Even so, if the moderators/admin do not feel this is an appropriate topic, feel free to remove it.

I'm sure many of you are familiar with various "reproduction" sites for NES/SNES games across the net. Simply stated, what they do is create physical carts of games that were not released in areas other than Japan, in English. Say, for example, you wanted a physical English cart for Final Fantasy III (the original NES FFIII), or MOTHER, they could make it for you...provided usually that there is a good, quality fan translation and you have the money.

Now, one site (which I will not name) offers reproduced SNES carts, and will even do custom titles, and I've been interested in trying to get Radical Dreamers placed onto a cart. The site also gives you the option of having a custom label printed on the cart, under the circumstances that you do not like the label they have offered, or you are asking for a custom title.

Now, simply stated, I'm asking if anyone has created a custom label for Radical Dreamers, seeing as the site I'm planning on using does not offer it already and it would have to be a custom title. I guess I figured I should ask in the fan art section...I don't know if this qualifies, but meh.

So yeah, as stated above, has anyone designed a label yet? If not, where/who should I ask if I would want to have one requested to be made?

Thanks very much for taking the time to read my post.

[Ramsus]

This isn't a neo-nazi emu/gaming forum run by teenagers and dopey guys who couldn't get a real job if their life depended on it and think making money off of ad-revenue through "content" sites under a fancy business name (i.e. Blah Blah Inc.) qualifies as a startup.

We're actually competent, thinking, understanding people here with better things to do than make and enforce arbitrary rules (and I mean things like doing top secret military intelligence work overseas or attending graduate business school and going to Europe to work at big firms).

As long as you aren't openly doing anything illegal and flat out self-incriminating such as posting child porn or providing pirate copies of software, we're okay with it. If you do do something like that though and there's a reasonable expectation that we saw it, then we're obligated to report it when we see it. So that's the only thing you have to not do.

With that said, you can eschew the silly warnings and apologies at the beginning of any remotely emulation/hacking-related post and just ask what you want to. I always found that kind of thing really stupid anyway.

As for your actual question, I really don't think anyone's made one before, but it shouldn't be too hard to make something really nice looking. In fact, we could turn it into a contest on the site.

What's the actual print size/shape of the label? If you can wait up to a month or so for the final result, I'll make a news post announcing the contest this weekend. Judging will be in three stages: site staff judging, popular vote, and then you can choose one that you actually use.

I'll talk to Zeality about possible prizes/awards as the week progresses.

[Redlandsman87]

Oh, okay, sorry for all the paranoia concerning ROMs and such. Simply stated though, I always like to be precautions because I (and I'm sure many of you as well) have been to tons of sites that are completely adamant against such things, and even talking about them in detail can lead to moderations or even bans. As you can tell, I am very new user and I just wasn't sure what the site's standing was on the subject, so I opted for the safe route and tried not to give any direct links.

But anyway, wow, you're doing much more than I expected! As far as sizes of the label go, I'm not sure of exact measurements but I'm pretty sure it would be the same as most standard US SNES carts, which is what the site, Gamereproductions.com, offers. And yes, I'm more than willing to wait for said results - I only wish I had the artistic talent to participate myself!

Since we are on the subject, I think it would be fantastic if the other BS Chrono games could be candidates as well, and maybe even more obscure titles such as the Chrono Trigger Beta. Just imagine how great it would look and feel to have these titles stacked up against Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross - I know it would give me a great feeling of "completion", having the whole series, with no restraints such as foreign languages or region-only releases, and having the ability to play them all on the systems they were meant to be played. And each of them having their own kick-ass label. 

Anyway, thanks very much for answering my question and going so far as to start a contest, heh. It is very much appreciated!   

[FaustWolf]

Wow, Ramsus' post reminds me of the fact that the Chrono Compendium is breeding world leaders. On to your subject, Redlandsman: you may be interested in the very art that the Demiforce team created: http://radicaldreamers.sourceforge.net/

This might be a backup in case the contest idea does not pan out, and of course you'd need to publically credit Demiforce somehow or otherwise obtain their permission before submitting it to your company of choice. So you can just submit ROMs to this company and they produce physical carts? That kicks ass.

[Redlandsman87]

While I do like the logo Demi and Co. created, I feel it "rehashes" to much on the CT logo. Don't get me wrong, it is good, but Radical Dreamers has such a different feel from the other titles...I dunno, I just feel it should have its own flair. I was considering just sending in the logo featured on the title screen edited a bit, but decided to see if anyone had already made a proper label. Of course, as you said it is always a good back up if this contest does not progress any further.

I have sent in the ROM for evaluation (with the V. 1.4 patch), to see if he will be able to make an actual cart. I wasn't sure, seeing as it was a Satellaview game, but I've seen other Satellaview titles be reproduced like this so I have high hopes. As far as credit, I didn't make any mention for the actual ROM, seeing as they stated who worked on it on the very first screen - but I'll be sure to give credit in the future.

And yes, they have about 60+ titles already available (I believe the work with NES, SNES, and Sega Genesis), and can make custom games if you wish.  You just have to do as  I did, and send in the ROM to get evaluated. Most of the titles run for about 27 or so dollars, and there is no extra charge for custom titles/labels/etc. It is a damn good site, and I already have a few titles (Dragon Quest V, Final Fantasy III, etc) already ordered. I very much recommend it.

[Redlandsman87]

Got an answer for the evaluation - he said he's pretty sure he could pull it off, making a physical cart of it. He just needs to figure out the correct donor cart, and when he does he'll email me back with more details.

[Ramsus]

Any more updates on this? I'm writing a release for the contest to be published this coming Monday morning following some site maintenance, so get in any last notes or ideas before then.

Also, anyone got some measurements on SNES cart labels? Photos with rulers next to the carts would be especially good.

[BROJ]

Any more updates on this? I'm writing a release for the contest to be published this coming Monday morning following some site maintenance, so get in any last notes or ideas before then.

Also, anyone got some measurements on SNES cart labels? Photos with rulers next to the carts would be especially good.

Alright, I got these measurements from a SMW cart.
Edit: On second thought, I'd better do the dimensions in inches:



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[Redlandsman87]

Well, so far I think we might be set. I dunno, if anyone has any ideas they'd like to throw into the pot, that would be great. 

[Ramsus]

I'm going to have to ask Zeality to take up this project. I keep having to put it off too much.

If we don't get around to an actual contest because of all the re-release stuff, BROJ did a pretty good label that you can use, and it shouldn't be to hard just to get other people to try their hand at it.

[cald]

I have slapped together a potential label for this game, but I don't know if I should post it here now or wait to see if an actual contest starts up.

[nightmare975]

Would they do custom roms?

[cald]

Well, since I didn't get any response I'm going to assume it's ok to just post this up now.  Mods, if I am wrong, feel free to edit this out.

This is a quick mockup I did of the label on an actual cart.

I can't seem to find a suitable host for the full size file.  It's a 300dpi JPG.  When I tried uploading it to photobucket it got resized.  If anyone has any suggestions on where to host it, let me know.  Otherwise, I'd gladly send it to anyone who might want it.

[BROJ]

If the contest has started I'll gladly post my entry. BTW cald, that looks really good!

[x_XTacTX_x]

Amazing work cald! It looks so real...