I'm not targeting you Thought, just pickin' a place to jump in.
Always glad when you do jump in.
But all of that is getting away from the crux; Schala being sent to the DBT should count as matter being destroyed, unless she was a Time Bastard. Yet, if she is a Time Bastard, then Kid's existance would count as matter being created. Either way, Conservation of Matter seems to be bunk.
Again, I reiterate: no matter/energy was destroyed, as the dimensions share a common origin(same initial density), so no violation of the Law of Conservation. This does, however, fall into the area of the information paradox(i.e. no information can be destroyed)--and that's what the Time Bastard theory is for.
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That would be true only if we count the DBT into the total. Admittedly, this might be the proper way of things, but the Time Bastard Theory specifically states that the DBT is for preserving matter/energy:
"Duplicates of entities cannot be created through time travel because this would violate the conservation of energy in the universe. If a time travel scenario would cause a duplicate entity to exist, the entity with the least seniority of time traveler immunity would be sent to the DBT." ~
Time Bastard TheoryAlso in that article: "Time Bastard states that counterparts of time traveling persons or matter cannot exist past the exact time of the original article's departure."
And finally: "This ensures that a duplicate of Crono cannot exist; as a result, no matter or energy is added or subtracted from the sum of the universe."
Thus the theory makes clear that when a new timeline in created, "new" matter exists up to the point of the original timeline's matter time travel departure, at which point that matter is discarded to the DBT. Perhaps I am missing a subtly in the theory, but it seems that the Theory is concerned only with the end result "the sum of the universe." No matter or energy is added or subtracted, but plenty of matter/energy is being swapped out (which, to my understanding, would still technically violate the conversation of matter/energy).
Now I think you suggested a bit of a fix to this:
Ah, but the composition(i.e. matter/energy) of Kid/Serge/[insert name here] exists in both dimensions; dimensions of a common origin. So no matter/energy is transferred, only information.
I am not entirely sure if I am following you, but I think you are saying one of two things:
1) When the information of Serge transfers from Home to Another, that rewrites the matter that was serge's dead body in Another world into Home Serge, so no matter is created or destroyed. However, I doubt this is what you meant since that would make it impossible for Home Fargo to interact with Another Fargo.
2) When Serge transfers from Home to Another there is no creation of matter since the matter total of both dimensions are added together; not one dimension tallied apart from the other. I am fairly sure this is what you meant, but I mentioned the other just in case.
Now, #2 depends on a particular quality of matter; that it can exist in two (or more) places at once. When the dimensions split, new matter wasn't created, the old matter just had one more state to exist in (thus, information that orders that matter was created, but the same matter was used). We might compare this to a computer monitor; different images might be displayed on it depending on the information, but the creation of a new image doesn't add pixels to the minitor.
So, then, if matter can exist in two places at once provided there is information to separate the two instances, why do we need Time Bastard at all? A duplicate could easily exist in the exact same dimension and timeline provided it uses the same matter but different information; there becomes no significant distinction between someone who has a duplicate due to timeline split and someone who has a duplicate due to dimensional split, yet we know the latter case can easily exist. Yet Time Bastard exist specifically to prevent these sort of duplicates.
You suggest that TB exists for the purpose of the conservation of information. I certainly would be inclined to agree that the DBT exists for this reason, but Time Bastard? The Theory gives us a means by which excess information might be done away with, but we are then left with
no reason to discard the information in the first place. Information can be created with no problem and, as we see with the dimensions, two different bits of information can happily share the same pool of matter. TB Theory is to prevent duplicates, but if it shunts matter (as opposed to information) to the DBT, then it violates conservation of matter as per the Schala Conundrum, yet if it shunts information (as opposed to matter) to the DBT, then there is no reason for that information to be shunted in the first place. Either way, using the TB Theory to take care of duplicates doesn't seem to make much sense.
Now all that looks very fine to me, but am I missing/misunderstanding something?
