Lavos And The Universe

[V_Translanka]

I still don't see, even if it was supposed to be Native American, how they're 'primitive'...They were mostly fishermen or nomadic tribes...But whatever...

Ape Note: Humans, homo sapians (sapiens?), ARE members of the primate...uh...Family? Genus? Those things that mean stuff about the deal...y'know? Damn my lack of paying attention skills in Biology!

OR...Perhaps the Reptite tongue simply doesn't distinguish into such advanced categories. Perhaps they call all dogs simply Dogs or something similar.

[Radical_Dreamer]

We are primates, our closest relatives are the great apes (chimps, bonobos, gorillas, ourangatans). Don't let the Darwinists fool you, you are not a monkey!  

[Leebot]

Technically, humans do not fall into the category of Great Apes (I believe it's an order). That category includes Chimpanzees, Gorillas, and Orangutans. Humans belong to the order(?) of homonids, which, aside from humans, contains only extinct species (such as Neanderthals).

[Radical_Dreamer]

Technically, humans do not fall into the category of Great Apes (I believe it's an order). That category includes Chimpanzees, Gorillas, and Orangutans. Humans belong to the order(?) of homonids, which, aside from humans, contains only extinct species (such as Neanderthals).

Right, but the Great Apes are our closest living relatives.

[Leebot]

Right, but the Great Apes are our closest living relatives.

I'm not arguing with your point, but with V_Translanka's point that...

Ape Note: Humans, homo sapians (sapiens?), ARE members of the primate...uh...Family? Genus? Those things that mean stuff about the deal...y'know? Damn my lack of paying attention skills in Biology!

To clarify, humans are primates (pretty sure this is an order), but not apes (on second thought, this is probably a family). The primate order also contains monkeys and something else I'm forgetting.

[GrayLensman]

Here is a Phylogeny of the Primate Family.

[V_Translanka]

You're not a monkey, but a greater part of your DNA says you're part monkey.

[Swordmaster]

So lets do the ultimate question.

Are Ayla and her tribe Homo Sapiens ?

[Radical_Dreamer]

In all honesty, Ayla and her tribes people don't make sense, from an evolutionary stand point. 65 million years is a long time for evolution to take place. They do not appear to be any pre-human species, they look exactly like normal humans. I'd have to say that they were homo sapiens, although, I'll amend that: homo sapiens archaic Mind you, it's been a while since anthropology, but I do recal that being a valid species of near-humans.

[V_Translanka]

Whenever I thought that, I realized that this isn't actually happening on Earth. Crono-World seems smaller than Earth. Such dramatic differences in environment are bound to cause evolutionary changes.

[Chrono'99]

Yeah, don't forget there are winged apes in Ayla's world, winged apes

[Swordmaster]

Yeah, don't forget there are winged apes in Ayla's world, winged apes

Curious.
Beside the Reptites hate the humans, they  fought with thoses winged apes in their sides.

and those faces at Terra Tower, the ones before the boss, look like apes.

[Leebot]

An idea sprung to me in a post in the magic thread that bears relevance here:

What if the evolution of humans that the frozen flame supposedly caused wasn't standard evolution as we were thinking (bringing the "Apes" up to sentient status), but rather allowing them to use magic? This would neatly explain how the "Apes" of 65,000,000 BC seem so close to modern humans (if you except the speech patterns), yet can't use magic.

[Swordmaster]

I think it is a natural way of thinking if still defend the "After-lavos evolution" Thesis but agre that Ayla is a human with a undeveloped culture like some today tribals peoples.
By the way i remenber Kid saying that Magic is relationed with the will power of the individuals .

[koolkame]

The voice in Fort Dragonia that tells the story of the Planet called the humans that came in contact with the Flame "Apes" just as Azalea called Ayla's people and Chrono's crew "apes".

Apes is more of a derogatory term to my mind than a evolutionary niche. Ayla could not use Magic because she came from before Magic "existed", which may mean that she is not biologically capable like the Humans from the future. Apes may just mean Humans who are not altered by the Flame. Like rednecks.

Sorry if this is off-topic but it's my first post. Anywhere.