Okay, here's the first one. It doesn't look to me like this was a conversation of much consequence, unfortunately (I kinda wish I'd done the Procyon Studio page first @.@)... Sorry, this is quite a rough translation. As I've said before, casual conversational Japanese is still difficult for me.
歌う山について
About the Singing Mountain
連続投稿失礼します。
いや、某掲示板では考察ばかりしているもので、
過去ログにあってもう終わっている話題で興味のあるものを見るとどうしても意見を出したくなってしまうのですよね（汗）
Sorry for the double post.
No, since I'm just inquiring into a certain board,
when I saw something interesting in the already-finished topics of the past logs, I really wanted to come give my opinion no matter what. ^_^;;
それで本題は、タイトル通りにクロノ・トリガーのサントラに入っている『歌う山』についてです。
Therefore the main question is, as it says in the title, about "Singing Mountain" on the Chrono Trigger soundtrack.
初めてこの曲を聞いたとき、「あれ？ こんな良い曲あったかな…」と不思議に思っていたのですが、
ここの過去ログを見てサントラだけに入っている曲だと初めて知りました。
個人的に本編中にも是非入れてほしかった曲です。曲だけでとても感動できますし、色々な場面が想像されます。
When I first listened to this song, because I thought oddly, "Eh? That was a great song...", I looked at the past logs and knew for the first time which songs were only on the soundtrack.
Personally, while [editing/compiling the book*], it was certainly also the song I wanted most to be in it. With only that song I was able to feel very moved, and it made me imagine many scenes.
[*Your guess is as good as mine as to what he's talking about here. The translation's right, but I don't have the context.]
それで、この曲が使用されるであった場所として『死の山』が挙がっていたと思います。
ですが、この曲を聴く限り……曲に入る前にゲートをくぐる音が入っていますよね。
だとすると、自然的にゲートをくぐったすぐ後の場所でこの曲が流れることになると思います。
Because of that, [I think the likelihood of "Death Mountain" being the place where the song was used went up.*]
But the hearing of the song is limited... before it can go into the song, the sound of passing through a Gate comes in, right?
If that's what happens, I think the song plays at the place right after spontaneously passing through the Gate.
[*I believe this is the general gist of the sentence. It uses a very weird colloquial-sounding phrase. n.n;]
死の山にはゲートはなかったと思いますし、サントラに収録されている位置的にいっても死の山ではないと思います。
『歌う山』の前に来るのが『魔王決戦』で後に来るのが『ティラン城』の曲。
だとすれば、この曲は魔王と戦った後、ティラン城の曲が流れる前に使われる（予定だった）と考えるのが妥当です。
Since I don't think there was a Gate on Death Mountain, I don't think that's the area, even though that's the position it says it's recorded to on the soundtrack.
Before "Singing Mountain" comes "Magus Decisive Battle", and after it comes "Tyran Castle".
If that's so, I think it's correct that the song would come after fighting with Magus, and could be used before the Tyran Castle song plays (or that was the plan) .
そこから考えて、なおかつゲートをくぐった直後の場所……どこになるでしょうか。（あるいは専用の場所があったのかもしれませんね）
他力本願ですみません。トリガーも最近はやっていなので、大まかな流れは覚えているものの、細かいところは覚えていないのです（汗）
From there, consider the place immediately after passing through the Gate... Where would that be? (Or maybe there's one place where it's used exclusively, huh?)
I'm sorry I have to rely on everybody else to figure this out. Since I haven't played Trigger lately either, I don't really remember the small details out of the general current of memorized stuff ^_^;;
個人的にはクロノを生き返らせるときに、クロノを連れて戻ってきた後に流れてくれていれば良かったなぁ、と思います。
Personally, when reviving Crono, I think it would have been nice to have it playing after you put him back in your party.
Re: 歌う山について
Re: About the Singing Mountain
「歌う山」は作曲者の光田さんによりますと、
没になってしまったダンジョンで使用される予定だった曲だそうです。
（詳細は光田さんの公式サイトのQ&Aに書いてあります。）
どのような展開で訪れるダンジョンだったのでしょうね？
そういう事を想像するのも本当に楽しい事ですよね。
It seems like it was due to the composer Mitsuda-san planning to use it in a dungeon that was discarded.
(The details are written about at the Q&A on Mitsuda-san's official site.)
[Maybe it's from some dungeon that would've been added in development?*]
Imagining the stuff that's been talked about is really fun though, huh?
[*My best guess.]
なるほど
Oh, I see
お返事ありがとうございます。
Thank you very much for answering.
> 「歌う山」は作曲者の光田さんによりますと、
> 没になってしまったダンジョンで使用される予定だった曲だそうです。
>It seems like it was due to the composer Mitsuda-san discarding the plans to have it used in a dungeon.
そうだったのですか。過去ログは量が多かったのでざっと見ただけでして、答えが既に出ていたのは見落としていました。
すみません。
それと、良い曲なのに実に勿体ないですね。でも、サントラに収録して頂けただけでも良しというところでしょうか。
Ah, was that it? Since there were so many past logs, I was just glancing through them, and I overlooked the answers that were already there.
Sorry.
That song is really much better than we deserve, huh? But even if we just got it on the soundtrack, it's something to shout "Yeah!" about.
> どのような展開で訪れるダンジョンだったのでしょうね？
> そういう事を想像するのも本当に楽しい事ですよね。
>[Maybe it's from some dungeon that would've been added in development?]
>Imagining the stuff that's been talked about is really fun though, huh?
ということは、魔王決戦にて巨大なゲートに飲み込まれた後に行き着く先だった……のかもしれませんね。
先に書いた通り、『歌う山』の前後に収録されている曲は『魔王決戦』と『ティラン城』ですから。
『歌う山』の最初の方のゲートをくぐる音も、それで納得できますし。
About that, maybe it was after getting swallowed up in the huge gate after the Magus battle, but before arriving at the next destination...
Since, like I wrote before, the songs before and after "Singing Mountain" are "Magus Decisive Battle" and "Tyran Castle".
[Unable to translate], the sound of passing through a Gate, because of that I can understand/agree.
それで、その『歌う山』のダンジョンをクリアした後に何らかの形でエイラの元へと……。
とにかく、ありがとうございました！
Because of that, I wonder what form Eira's origins would head toward after clearing the "Singing Mountain" dungeon...
Anyway, thank you very much!
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If you have any questions, let me know. I went somewhat more literal on this one since I wasn't as sure of myself.
Edit: Had a sentence slightly wrong. "It seems like it was due to the composer Mitsuda-san planning to use it in a dungeon that was discarded" rather than Mitsuda being the one doing the discarding. n.n; Sorry.
