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The Springtime of Youth Union
« on: August 12, 2008, 12:08:04 am »
There is a lot of text here. If you are in the springtime of youth, you'll get through it.

I'm sick of apparently being unable to be totally in the springtime of youth. Sleep is my worst enemy; it requires a surrender of will to lose consciousness, and I wake up feeling a little tired or discouraged. From there on I seek basic pleasures as I slowly awaken, and it takes a mountain of will to get back into this guy's attitude:



On this Compendium, one of the legacies of the early days and the founding Compendiumites is an atmosphere of sincere exchange and discussion. I've tried to augment that by my explosive gestures of youth, and more recently, with the Your Dreams thread. Most people on earth aren't ready to refuse to accept circumstances and change fate, let alone talk about their innermost desires or dreams, and so I've also tried to make that untaboo and even encouraged (with my blase treatment, as Lord J pointed out!). And I wrote this today on Lord J's journal in reply to something:

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If I had one trait I'd like to be at the front of my...what, image, charisma, dealings with people, etc., it'd be the springtime of youth. And I love that in other people, rare as it may be, because it creates positive feedback and encouragement. Still, it's hard to be the electrifying Zell Dincht in the room because of my own introversion and proneness to negativity in dealing with obstacles. I'm also not very good at pushing friends (mostly casual or good friends, but even the best sometimes) in regards to their problems. Sometimes I fear that probing into a friend's problems or struggles may be regarded as invasive, or that encouraging them (which often does benefit from the use of things like "are you so pathetic as to [fail]" and other taunts) may be construed as annoying or hostile.

I need to get over it. I've made a fun little hobby out of cleverly asking people their dreams or prime desires, and I helped resolve the A situation precisely because J harshly told me that I had become pathetic.

And communicating the springtime of youth is attractive to me because I believe the power of interpersonal exchanges is underestimated. In my adventures of casually asking people their most sacred ambitions, I'm sure I've caused a few men and women to think and analyze their desires. My refusal to accept and my presence outside the realm of another person's problems allows me to dispassionately (well, with the passion of youth) identify paths of potential free from that person's constricting limitations or frame of reference. Saying to someone, "there is another way," "it doesn't have to be like this," or "if you've got the will, you can make it happen" seems to be a pleasure I don't get enough of right now. It's more than just saying "yeah, what a pain" when hearing someone's problem; it's laying the groundwork for a new, better reality by issuing the challenge to improve; to see that trifles in life are only minor and impermanent. And every new experience I have is another chapter on which to draw in such an exchange. And influencing someone to be in the springtime of youth could start a chain reaction motivating others to become more aware.

I guess the only difficulty is that most people aren't ready to feel the passion of youth and channel it into practical action, let alone discuss important things like this with casual or good friends. So it's a tool I find hard to exercise. But that's why I started the Your Dreams thread at the Compendium; if anything, I'm reinforcing the atmosphere of freedom and youth on the forums. No topic is sacred, and no declaration is too grand. Every desire is a destiny on the road to serene awareness and illumination. And where we're going, we don't need...roads!

Now, I want to test that power of interpersonal communication. My plan is this:

  • To form of a group of people in the springtime of youth on the forums here
  • To encourage as a requirement the posting of daily goals (or their exchange) for the next day
  • To...well, let's say someone doesn't meet his daily goals and has no real excuse. The public setting and the encouragement or youthul derision of the others would be a total catalyst to getting back in action again.

So I guess I'd create a new forum here without a post count. And each day, we would post our daily goals, thus declaring our passionate intent to fulfill them to the world at large. Upon meeting them, we would edit the post to say MET and post the ones for the next day.

If this is all not feasible, then by all means we can just maintain friendships on AIM or MSN or whatever instant messenger and do it that way.

This is all in the air right now, so discussion would help in actualizing this idea.

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2008, 12:45:12 am »
I think it's a great step. I will say it now you have made it into my life not through the compendium, but through the attitude that is tied to and is completely part of the Springtime of Youth. I laughed at the picture thread, I was more then happy to go along with the joke. Time and time again I saw it used, each time something was revealed. It went from a fun saying to childish ideal.

Thats a complete insult to any other philosophy but not for the this one. Its not like the ones often argued here, its no Kant, its not Objectivism. Those are bound in guidelines and rules whether the acknowledge it or not.

Springtime of Youth its your Passion turned into a river of sweet and tears, Its a unstoppable burning desire. This I see this and I admire this in the youth, they don't back down when they think they are right. No matter whats stacked against them. Later in life they loss that passion its hindered by reputation and tradition. Their is nothing wrong with either of these but in this regard the hold people back. Most importantly it needs a rival. Person or not a conflict just to bring out the most powerful and basic force in nature, competition.

This is the truth! This is my belief! …at least for now





EDIT: I think thats the most I ever wrote in a single post myself!
« Last Edit: August 12, 2008, 12:59:22 am by Kebrel »

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2008, 01:02:47 am »
Alright, my to-do list for the week(is it alright if I do it weekly?) so far is:

  • Get a new computer;
Done~ish.(waiting for it to arrive)

  • Figure out why I am so depressed;
Done.

  • Map character data(in RAM) in SO2 so I can create characters rather than modify existing ones; and
Done. If anyone is curious, I did this because I wanted to create a fully functional Ashton after getting Opera and Ernest without overriding an existing character.

  • Say my goodbyes to my close friends and family before I go off to college.
Done.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2008, 07:08:51 pm by BROJ »

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2008, 01:03:28 am »
Oh, we'd definitely make that forum if we got started, and make a membergroup.

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2008, 01:21:12 am »
My List:

  • Find out how to say goodbye to Kaity*
  • Pack of my clothes, books, and misc
  • Decide the fate of my MAME cabinet
  • Figure put what the hell Discover did to my Stafford loan NEW
  • Make it out to CyberCenter(local PC arcade) NEW



*may take longer then a day
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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2008, 06:05:11 pm »
Hm, doesn't seem to be enough interest...

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2008, 06:37:15 pm »
well mine today were  .....

-to start doing my homework(its back to school for me soon)
-decide what i wanna do as a job
-sort out my games cupboard
-see what the compendiums got up to

i think three out of four is ok for my first try but i really dont no what to do with my life ive never actually thought about it before :?

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2008, 06:57:23 pm »
Perhaps a better idea would be to reward people somehow if they display the springtime of youth.  Whether it be through pushing oneself or helping another push themselves to their greatest potential.


They could get a temporary avatar for that week?

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2008, 08:01:12 pm »
Hm, yeah...

If we did this, we'd set up a forum. And everyone would make their own thread, the first post of which might contain dreams, ambitions, and goals. They could make a new post for each day so there'd be a history, but post-count would be deactivated in the forum, I guess.

Would we make it a private thing? I guess the picture thread would go there..

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2008, 08:47:40 pm »
Freakin' count me in, of course.

Referring to your quote from J's journal, I have to say you've affected me in that I've become more outgoing and responsive to friends, striving to motivate them further, along with myself, on the path to a beautiful future. Alas, I lack some passion in doing some things in my life, and I need to sort that out. Naturally, I'm not stopping there. I'll keep on going and fighting for what I want, along the way encouraging others who need that boost into a brighter way of thinking.

Regarding my dreams and ambitions, that's something I very much need to address. So of course, I love the forum idea and would gladly participate.

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 02:05:40 am »
This Spring time of youth thing, I with I to could be an optimistic person who strives for goals and keeps passion, alas I am a cynic....not emo, just a cynic.
Please teach me to be in the Spring Time of Youth as well.....wait what the heck is the Spring Time of Youth anywho? I never quite understood what your talking about. Is is a passion for life, a cult, a sriving to do better in life and at a hobby without allowing the pressures of life to drive you into a sprial of depression and self laotheing? I must know what this Spring Time of Youth is! Tell me please!

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2008, 04:17:46 am »
Well I was able to complete everything one the list but one so far, woohoo, I really don't have anything else that needs doing before I leave to university. Well wish me luck on the only real Springtime of Youth goal on the list, saying goodbye.

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2008, 09:01:12 pm »
Done with my weekly goals so...

  • Have one more chaotic and fun night with friends
  • Hack Artemis Enteri into Icewind Dale II(i.e. Third Edition)
  • Organize possesions and sort out miscellaneous issues
  • Watch/Read latest Bleach anime/manga

One more thing...

ZeaLity, I need to talk to you over PM.

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 07:56:22 am »
I would love to join - afterall, I have posted quite a bit here and know most of the people here - but I don't come here as often as I used to, and feel a bit...disconnected with the Compendium as a whole, often feeling as if I don't really know what is going on.

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Re: The Springtime of Youth Union
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 10:44:40 pm »
Wazapah! Long time no see.

I'm all for the 'put the world upon your shoulders and spank the hell out of it with a big smile in the face' mindset, so no need for big explanatory psychobabble.

I'll keep it simple, for now. I've been jogging regularly for a week now, and I've been increasing 500 meters each day. Today I ran 5.5km in half an hour, so tomorrow's goal:

- To run 6km in as close to a half hour as I can.

Also: Not-quite-so-long-term goal:

- To run this years "Corrida Pela Vida", a short marathon that happens here where I live, around october.
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