Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]

[Romana]

The game's been released early in Hong Kong, apparently.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=950181&topic=46651206

People are saying it runs in English if your DS is set to that.

Also, apparently the roms freeze quite a bit.

Gonna get a rom and see for myself.

Actually, there's anti-copying measures taken in the game, so until it's patched, it's impossible to get past the gate to 600AD; even if you do, the cathedral's organ doesn't open the door like it should.

Nuts.

[Dark Serge]

Nice! Time to test this shit out. Google ftw.

[Romana]

Playing it now.

I know there's footage of people playing this on YouTube and stuff already, but I'm making a list anyway...

Touch/dual screen controls can be turned off, as well as movies.

...The 5 character limit is still there.
Japanese version can switch between Japanese and English in the configuration. The game runs off of English if your DS runs in that.

"Crono, are you still sleeping?"
Funny how the "Good morning, Crono!" line isn't in it.

Touching the screen when in front of an object/character interacts with them, e.g. Crono closes the curtains.

'Settings' has lots of new options.
Game Mode - Switch between DS and Classic (toggles screen layout).
Battle Mode - Active and Wait.
Battle Speed - 1-8, same as before.
Battle Message Speed - 1-8, same as before.

Battle Cursor Memory - Set cursor memory level (Full, Actions, Commands, Off).
Status Bars - On or Off.
Battle Gauges - Same as before ("Cannot be used in DS Mode.").
Help Messages - Same as before? ("Cannot be used in DS Mode.").

Control Scheme - Edit the controls for A, B, X, Y.
Movement - Walk or Run.
Shortcut Assignments - "Via this screen, you can arrange the icons that are shown at the bottom of the screen as you wander about the world." Allows you quick access to different parts of the menu. Very neat!
Menu Cursor Memory - On or Off. 'Toggle cursor position memory.' Same as before.

Movies - On or Off. SNES purists rejoice!
Window Design - Nothing new here.
Language - JPN or ENG.

Tonics -> Potions

Mayor's Manor contains a document on a bed upstairs that tells you about DS and Classic modes.

Guy in the inn no longer calls you an airhead for not remembering the earthquake. I liked that line. >:
[For the record, I'm not covering the script differences unless it's something fairly important.]

Upon saving the Arena mode became available. From the title menu, I think.

Mentioned elsewhere but Tabs are now 'Capsules'. E.g. 'Strength Capsule'

The kid in the fair refers to Magus as the 'Fiendlord'.

Not a big change, "Beat me up and earn 15 silver points" is now "If you can beat me up you'll earn 15 points"

Warp to 600AD from the fair never ends.

[FaustWolf]

Does this mean we can theoretically put the Japanese version of CT:DS in English as well? That would give us five days' lead time in examining the full game!

[Romana]

Editing my above post as I play, enjoy guys~.

I'll be computerless for a few hours, but I'll be writing this stuff down and posting it up shortly, if it's of any use.

[Dark Serge]

Do you happen to have savegames for post-600 A.D. warp and post-Cathedral door? It seems to bug out on those two spots.

[Romana]

Sorry, nope.

As I mentioned earlier, there's apparently a lot of copyright protection in the game and it just freezes at those points. Shame... Not that far myself yet.

[FaustWolf]

Do DS emulators make use of savestates? If the ROM is of "expected" size, then all the game data may be there, and copyright protection takes the form of a few purposeful glitches. By hacking a savestate, we may be able to change what room the characters are supposed to be in when the game loads, thus bypassing the roadblocks.

[Romana]

Sorry, I'm running it on my DS (via a R4), and my computer is a Mac at the moment so I have no way of making use of a decent emulator (I'd upload screenshots if I did though). As far as I remember, though... I don't think any DS emulators use save states.

[MagilsugaM]

Do DS emulators make use of savestates? If the ROM is of "expected" size, then all the game data may be there, and copyright protection takes the form of a few purposeful glitches. By hacking a savestate, we may be able to change what room the characters are supposed to be in when the game loads, thus bypassing the roadblocks.

Yeah, I used NO$GBA which now has almost perfect DS Emulation and it has save state support. But I only tried one game and crashed when loading the save state. 

[Romana]

For the record, I don't support the pirating of games over owning them yourself. I'm buying my own copy, so let's show some support for the series!

[Dark Serge]

Yes, I will play on my R4 (if possible) but I'll sure as hell buy it too. CT is too great to pirate.

Btw I just played through everything up until Marle's disappearance in 1000 AD and except the Arena. Now I can say for sure CT DS is freaking sweet. They polished up an awesome game and made something even better out of it.

Yes, this is a must buy.

[MagilsugaM]

I am getting a ds soon so I'll buy it too.
Bu tI tryed it on a few emulators to see how it is. In No$GBA it shows a screen which says "Unable to access data. Please turn the power OFF and reinsert the game" But in IDeaS it works in Japanese but very slow. SO I'll just buy it when I get my DS.

[Dark Serge]

Another thing:

Once you save besides Arena you can access Extras in the title screen. These include a movie player to play all FMV's, a music player to play all music, an artwork viewer, a bestiary, a tech skill database, and more.

Btw, you unlock these during the game. E.g. once you've heard a track or seen a FMV you can view or hear it in the Extras menu. It's not available before that.

[mav]

They had an Extras Menu in the Playstation release, right? And how's the translation been so far?