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Lavos's actual size
« on: November 21, 2008, 03:18:59 am »
Ok so I'm playing through CT today, and I noticed something peculiar.

First of all, For Lavos to be visible to the naked eye through a sunny sky in the middle of the day in 65,000,000 BC, one can assume he's pretty damned big.

When he falls, he hits the Tyrano Lair, whatever. However, if you notice, the sprite of him obliterating the Tyrano Lair is MUCH smaller than the sprite he uses when bursting from the ground.

So this is my question I guess, and it may sound stupid, but I believe it's a valid question. One can assume that Lavos grows when he's in the earth correct? Well if its sprite is that small when it falls, and it immediately falls into a pocket dimension, then how would it be able to grow? This assumes that its pocket dimension exists outside of the normal timeline. Wouldn't it be more feasible to assume that perhaps Schala actually forces Lavos into a PD after the Ocean Palace incident, rather than it creating one the instant it falls?

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2008, 07:15:44 am »
Either way, why couldn't Lavos grow inside the PD?

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2008, 01:58:56 pm »
Well I just assumed that huis pocket dimension would work basically the way God does in our Universe, existing outside of time.

I guess what my theory depends on is does time actually pass in the PD?

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2008, 12:05:32 am »
Well, we see that Lavos is capable of seemingly traveling through time within the PD, which would make sense if it was to gather DNA from various sources or w/e...

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 05:54:56 pm »
Then again, the party's overworld sprites are also a lot larger than they are in reality (I mean, c'mon! They're as big as a friggin house!). It is only natural to assume the same for Lavos.

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 07:29:45 pm »
Yeah, but Lavos has the two overworld sprites...The arrival & the arising.

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2008, 09:54:46 pm »
I would assume that he grows while in the earth.  I mean, we see that the Lavos spawn start out small and Lavos would possibly have to grow to contain the "pinnacle of evolution" that it exists to create.
(No way a Lavos spawn could comfortably hold the Lavos Core inside of it.

Also. I wonder if the two types of unique monsters Lavos creates during the shell battle are the Lavos spawn at earlier stages.... (they have the same beak/eye feature as Lavos)

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2008, 10:36:10 pm »
That's a valid theory. Can anyone look into it?

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2008, 11:59:40 pm »
No way a Lavos spawn could comfortably hold the Lavos Core inside of it.

Why not...? The shell seems like it could be hollow enough to fit a Core...



The one "walking" one looks like it could be some offshoot of the Spawn or something, I guess...The mouth/eye/whatever looks similar...the shoulder mounted Azala clone one though doesn't really look it...I think they were just specified biological constructs created specifically to mimic the attacks of whatever mode Lavos enters...

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2008, 12:30:20 am »
Maybe the Core doesn't look how it does until the spawns are a certain 'age'?

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2008, 05:21:15 pm »
Is there any in game evidence that when Lavos immerges, it does so entirely? It's possible that it's just the "head" of Lavos peeking out from its burrow.

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2008, 09:16:41 pm »
It is my belief that the Lavos Spawn came from the original Lavos...as in they grew inside it and once the process was complete, the original Lavos died off and lived through the spawn.  Kind of like the creatures from Tremors 2.


edited to please head mistress V....
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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2008, 02:32:42 pm »
No way a Lavos spawn could comfortably hold the Lavos Core inside of it.

Why not...? The shell seems like it could be hollow enough to fit a Core...

Well I know it has a core.  I just meant that the Lavos Spawn, as we see them in the game, cannot hold the fully developed core like the one we see in the game - so it would make sense that Lavos grows while in the planet.

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2008, 10:38:00 pm »
edited to please head mistress V....

No need to get all testes.

But whether you fight him in 12000 BC or 1999 AD he still looks the same size...

That's...not what this discussion is about...It would be his growth from 65,000,000BC to 12,000BC that's being talked about here. After that, I suspect, it's mostly about gathering DNA...or else the shell is just formed first...Lavos grows from the outside in??? >_>

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Re: Lavos's actual size
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2008, 06:10:47 am »
Well, it's still on topic (and besides, in the Analysis forums, as long as it's still analytical in nature, discussions usually flow as they will), but both eruptions use the same sprite...The variation comes from Lavos' landing and then the subsequent times he arises...>_>