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« on: March 01, 2005, 08:26:34 pm »
When you defeat him at his castle, he's sent to 12,000 B.C. and you're sent to the Prehistoric Ages. He warned Queen Zeal that Crono and co. would show up to cause trouble, but how did he know you'd end up in the Dark Ages?

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2005, 08:44:25 pm »
He probably figured that the party was sent to the same location in time as he was.

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2005, 08:45:56 pm »
One portal normally equals one timeline. It was safe to assume that they would all come out in the same era, but what Magus didn't know was that they didn't go to Zeal era, but to the prehistoric era...He didn't know, but probably figured better safe than sorry.

edit: one minute Faulce! :(

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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2005, 08:46:35 pm »
He was sent straight to 12,000 B.C. while they were sent to 65,000,000 B.C. How could Magus know they'd show up in Zeal?

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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2005, 08:48:41 pm »
Why wouldn't they? They all went through the same portal, so he probably thought they came out in Zeal at the same time as he did, but just somewhere else. He had no way of knowing they went to 65,000,000 BC.

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2005, 08:54:16 pm »
How though? They were sucked in the same portal, but to different time periods. Remember when Ayla gathered Crono and co. from the mountains? Magus wasn't there.

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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2005, 08:58:23 pm »
That's...What....I'm saying...Magus thought they DID end up in Zeal. How could he know they ended up in 65,000,000BC if they went through the same portal??? He couldn't! He doesn't! That's what I'm saying. He says they'll be in Zeal because that's where he thinks they are.

Either that, or he saw Robo and realized they came from the future.

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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2005, 09:04:40 pm »
OHHH I see what you mean now. What does seeing Robo have to do with anything?

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2005, 10:27:33 pm »
Well, Robo is obviously made of technology not present in 600 AD (at least, obvious to us, it may not be so to them; no one else comments on him), so Magus might have surmised that they traveled back through time. I'm still not sure exactly how this connects to Zeal, though.

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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2005, 11:50:55 pm »
We can presume that Magus knew that Crono and the others were time travelers.  After Crono rescued Queen Leene, the time travellers existence was common knowledge in the Royal Court and Magus would have learned of this through whatever spies or intelligence the Mystics employed.  Very likely, the Mystics in Truce Canyon also observed the passage of the travellers through the GATE.  After Magus arrived in 12000 AD, knowing that the travellers had a method of time travel, it was only logical for him to conclude that they would pursue him in Zeal.

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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2005, 05:30:20 pm »
You're overlooking the simplest solution. Magus simply remembered that they would be there. Remember, Janus confronts the party soon after they arrive in Zeal. Janus grows up to be Magus, and once Magus returns to Zeal, it wouldn't take to my time to get reoriented as to where he was in the timeline, based on his memories, and become a prophet. He even states that this was his strategy at North Cape.

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2005, 12:59:21 pm »
only thing is, that orginally, they were not there.  Orginally, before Crono went after Marle, the whole Zeal and Ocean Palace thing went on without Crono and Co., and without Magus (Magus as in not Janus).  The strategy that he talks about at North Cape was general historical facts that he used.

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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2005, 12:30:28 pm »
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
You're overlooking the simplest solution. Magus simply remembered that they would be there. Remember, Janus confronts the party soon after they arrive in Zeal. Janus grows up to be Magus, and once Magus returns to Zeal, it wouldn't take to my time to get reoriented as to where he was in the timeline, based on his memories, and become a prophet. He even states that this was his strategy at North Cape.


the simpler.. the merrier  :)

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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2005, 01:13:24 pm »
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
You're overlooking the simplest solution. Magus simply remembered that they would be there. Remember, Janus confronts the party soon after they arrive in Zeal. Janus grows up to be Magus, and once Magus returns to Zeal, it wouldn't take to my time to get reoriented as to where he was in the timeline, based on his memories, and become a prophet. He even states that this was his strategy at North Cape.


Yeah, Magus would not remember Crono and the Party simply because they weren't there.  Sure, they then went back and slightly modified things but Magus would not remember this because as a Time Traveler he's protected from changes in the Timeline; he remembers only what originally happened.  Read the Article on Time Travel for more on this.

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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2005, 02:37:21 pm »
its possible that Magus was sent to a few years prior to 12000 BC, and then he could use his memories of things that happened up to the point that Crono got there and started changing things to convince people he was a prophet.