Chrono Trigger or Chrono Cross (or both?)

[Shadow D. Darkman]

Age, maybe? They might not change Guile's age, unless they decide to change Magus' age. If I recall, Magus was in his 40s, and Guile was around his mid-20s.

[maggiekarp]

Magil looked "about thirty" while Guile's 24 or something. Guile's about drinking, gambling, enigma, going "heh" and "interesting...", but for the most part he actually sort of talks like Magil. Like if he was younger, less serious, and didn't know who he's supposed to be!

I like Magil more because he's what Magus originally developed into. I'd like Guile more if he lost his memory some other way, instead of Magus pussing out, and if he actually had some sort of realization and conclusion instead of "well that was weird, I'ma go get a drink".

[utunnels]

I'm just curious do you guys think Cross's story is hard to understand if you didn't play Trigger first? Because I read the script first and got fully spoiled so I don't have that feeling...
At least you won't get any troubles understanding RD's story even if you don't know Trigger at all, it's quite short and clear.

BTW to Shadow D. Darkman, Magil(the name came from CC's script, if you read the report in Chronopolis, that's probably why Demiforce used that name)'s Japanese name was 'Gil'(think he's Gilbert in one scenario...).

[Celestial Insanity]

I didn't find it all that difficult to understand, though I did play Trigger first. Now, I didn't get everything plot-wise in my first playthrough, but that was precisely one of the reasons I loved Cross's plot. I can't consider the sheer complexity a flaw if it was an aspect I thoroughly enjoyed.

[The Black Wind]

Magus looked to be in his late 20s/early 30s at the most, and we don't know exactly what year Magus was thrown into at the end of CTDS. We assume it was 1000 A.D., but for all we know it could have been 1020 A.D. just in time for Chrono Cross.

[The Entity]

I prefer CT, but I also enjoyed CC a lot.

[Jutty]

I prefer CT, but neither game was bad. I was kinda overwhelmed by all the characters in CC and didn't feel the attachment that I felt for the characters in CT. Anyway why would you have a sig that bashes CT on a Chrono forum? I really think it's going to come down to which game you played first. Chrono Trigger was my first rpg ever. Just like FFVII was my first Final Fantasy and my favorite.

[Shadow D. Darkman]

IMO both CT and CC are good games. My sig shows that I think CC is just as good as, if not a tiny bit better than, CT.

I've seen vids of FF7, but I don't think I could ever understand the battle system or the Materia thing. Advent Children was an excellent movie IMO, and I've seen someone bashing The Spirits Within somewhere here. Just want to say that TSW was a good movie, but Advent Children does so much better, but nowhere near enough to justify bashing TSW.

[Void]

Both for sure, imo you can't have one without the other.

[Shadow D. Darkman]

Got that right.

[The Black Wind]

I've seen vids of FF7, but I don't think I could ever understand the battle system or the Materia thing. Advent Children was an excellent movie IMO, and I've seen someone bashing The Spirits Within somewhere here. Just want to say that TSW was a good movie, but Advent Children does so much better, but nowhere near enough to justify bashing TSW.

It's intimidating at first, especially when you're watching the game instead of playing it. But eventually you'll get used to it and everything makes sense. It's even more satisfying when you come up with your own materia combinations that make you into an unstoppable party (which I've already gone over in another thread, though I forget which). That said, I think Crisis Core for PSP had an even better materia system than the original FFVII.

As for The Spirits Within, to be honest I've never watched it. I was just never interested in seeing it while it was in theaters, and frankly I've forgotten about it ever since. I think Advent Children would have been a much better choice (not to mention more profitable) for a theatrical release instead. That would have been amazing.

[Jutty]

IMO both CT and CC are good games. My sig shows that I think CC is just as good as, if not a tiny bit better than, CT.

I've seen vids of FF7, but I don't think I could ever understand the battle system or the Materia thing. Advent Children was an excellent movie IMO, and I've seen someone bashing The Spirits Within somewhere here. Just want to say that TSW was a good movie, but Advent Children does so much better, but nowhere near enough to justify bashing TSW.

Final Fantasy series is a lot more harder than Chrono series, but it's not like impossible or anything. Materia system is pretty simple once you mess around with it and find what you like. There is also a graphic mod for the pc version that makes the game look a lot better, and The Spirits Within was extra shitty.

[Shadow D. Darkman]

...and The Spirits Within was extra shitty.

That's where I disagree. TSW was a good movie. True, AC is better, but it's not better enough to justify ANYONE bashing TSW, not even you.

[Xenterex]

True, AC is better, but it's not better enough to justify ANYONE bashing TSW, not even you.

In terms of animation quality and stylization, plus purpose of movie yea.  I did like AC, but I found some of the dialogue poorly written to what was a pretty good movie setup.  TSW was also good, though I think that people ending up not liking it because of how it tried to make its cg look too much like real people.

[BROJ]

IMO both CT and CC are good games. My sig shows that I think CC is just as good as, if not a tiny bit better than, CT.

I've seen vids of FF7, but I don't think I could ever understand the battle system or the Materia thing. Advent Children was an excellent movie IMO, and I've seen someone bashing The Spirits Within somewhere here. Just want to say that TSW was a good movie, but Advent Children does so much better, but nowhere near enough to justify bashing TSW.

Final Fantasy series is a lot more harder than Chrono series, but it's not like impossible or anything. Materia system is pretty simple once you mess around with it and find what you like. There is also a graphic mod for the pc version that makes the game look a lot better, and The Spirits Within was extra shitty.

You want a game that's hard? Try Star Ocean: TSS on Universe Mode. Whew... it was hard, but it was fun. Also, I wouldn't go as far as to say TSW was a horrible movie, but it wasn't a good movie either ─ and it certainly wasn't worthy of the Final Fantasy 'seal of approval', so to speak.