Magus DS(Spoiler)

[Void]

What if it was Magus that helped Dalton cause the Fall of Guardia,he wouldn't know any different his memories are gone,he wouldn't know who Crono and everyone are.

[Shadow D. Darkman]

But then why isn't he supporting Porre in CC then as Guile?

[Void]

u have a good point there,but just saying with the fall of guardia ending the shadow looks very similar to magus this is just a thought of course

[Nezz]

I'm pretty the shadow is Dalton's. I suppose they look kinda similar, in a weird, only-in-shadow type of way.

[Prince Janus]

But then why isn't he supporting Porre in CC then as Guile?

 Because he isn't Guile?

[Shadow D. Darkman]

Because he isn't Guile?

We have a theory going that makes Eclipse Magus as Guile. You can find it somewhere in the CTDS analysis thread.

[Prince Janus]

 That was ironic use of Picard, Try having an open mind about it.

[Dark Serge]

The long haired guy is Dalton... Magus wouldn't fight with a sword, and even if he doesn't remember Chrono and co, he has NO REASON at all to destroy Guardia anymore. So no, this theory goes right out of the window in my book.

[utunnels]

Dalton didn't use a sword neither, I think.

[Dark Serge]

He didn't in what we saw, but I could see him use one in a war, when he's low on MP or whatever. He's more likely to use a sword then Magus, anyway.

[mav]

We're getting heavy on the speculation here--just cause we haven't seen him use a sword doesn't mean that he wouldn't or couldn't--and if that sword's the Masamune, then maybe he'd just ditch the scythe for it.

However, I really doubt Magus would make such a drastic move for no apparent reason. Facepalm's aside, we assume Eclipse Magus is Guile, but we have no definitive proof either way, theories are theories after all. On an even more important note, why would Dalton even ally himself with Guile/Magus? If Dalton recognized Magus, I doubt he'd show anything but contempt for the man...then again, knowing Magus's power, maybe he utilized a confused Magus as an asset of some kind.

[Magus22]

Speculation is 100% ok... no one should discard anything...

Dalton could very well have used Eclipse Magus to help him overthrow Guardia. There are new theories in the CT DS Analysis thread that are worth a look too. It is conceivable that when Dalton traveled back to 1000AD, he found the wandering mindless-Magus. Think about it. Magus does not know who he is, yet alone Dalton, and Dalton knows this indivdual to have superior magic capability. He could have very well manipulated him saying that the "thing" he needed to do (Magus's dialogue in the forest) was to destroy the heathens of Guardia.

The FMV could be anything, really. I personally believe that is Dalton cutting down the last weilder of the Masamune.

[Dark Serge]

It's a bit too far fetched imo... Why would they waste Magus' role on the Fall of Guardia? He has still shitloads of other stuff he needs to do. And looking at Guile, he doesn't seem like the type that would believe anything somebody said to him.

But, who knows.

[utunnels]

In the Fall or Guardian CG, Masamune is taken by someone.
Is that one Dalton or ...?

We know in CC that sword has been in El Nido for a long time...and became demonic because Masa and Mune fell asleep.
What happened after that?

[Dark Serge]

Supposedly the Masamune is first found in El Nido by Radius and Garai in the Divine Dragon Falls on the main island of El Nido. How it got there we don't know. I presume Dalton had it first, but maybe he gave it to a Porrean and had him take it with him to El Nido to boost their force. And then the Porrean lost control of it or lost the sword altogether, whereupon it ended up in the Divine Dragon Falls.