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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2009, 03:05:22 pm »
I'd completely redo the whole thing, as in more intricate, fleshed out, choices & consequences, etc.

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2009, 04:25:09 pm »
Like others, I think more non-plot-related NPC dialog would be the biggest change I'd make. A few new reactions to Magus, Ayla, etc...Crono's mom is a good example of how it could be done. I wouldn't want to see too many major changes--Schala could join the party; it'd be interesting to see a contrasting character to Magus. Perhaps a closer nod to CC would be nice as well. Overall the game was damn good: all the changes added in the new ports provided something new, but didn't necessarily make the game even better--it was good to begin with.

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2009, 01:05:24 am »
Schala would sort of ruin continuity though...and Atropos surviving would take away from the emotional impact and ruin Robo's best scenes.

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2009, 01:14:58 am »
What I would change is to have the Queen recognize Magus during the battle against her.

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2009, 01:19:21 am »
Concerning Schala, to hell with it. As good a game as Cross is, it would be even better if it never happened at all.

As for Atropos, she could reappear like Robo did, all fixed up and helping Arris and Trann keep up hope.

New thought. Maybe after Lavos dies, she can remember the bleak future (like Robo and Doan) and strive to make the new future brighter than ever.

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2009, 01:22:33 am »
Concerning Schala, to hell with it. As good a game as Cross is, it would be even better if it never happened at all.
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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2009, 01:38:31 am »
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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2009, 05:49:04 am »
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Atropos shouldn't have died (although they did give us a happy ending in which she lived, she should've had more of a role in the plot).

Element of theatrical writing, when a character has served its purposes, they're killed off.  Personally, I think that particular arc works out as is because it does close the mystery that was Robo before Chrono & com. found him, gives greater insight into how this future is all kinds of not-good, and adds some tension and drama.  All of which is particularly impressive and sufficient to the plot particularly since the greatest driving force in the game is to change this future from happening, so its not so much necessary to flesh it out anymore when its done very well with what it needed to do.

Personally, I've change some elements to the oceanic palace incident as Schala's 'rewritten' fate really doesn't fit.  As upsetting as it may be to many, I'd rather her be directly killed off between the palace transitions then just magically flung to an obscurity in time-space. 

Outside of that, at this point the best 'improvement' CT can get is a story sequel that continues from Triggers perspective.  No more

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2009, 11:09:06 am »
Actually, before Schala's roles in RD and CC were revealed, it was assumed that she did die in the Ocean Palace, since it didn't show her being sent to the 1004 A.D. in Keystone T-1 to be reborn as RD Kid, nor to the DBT where Lavos would later arrive and fuse with her to create the Time Devourer.

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2009, 11:41:02 am »
Schala would sort of ruin continuity though...and Atropos surviving would take away from the emotional impact and ruin Robo's best scenes.
I agree on both those statements--I'd like to play as Schala, just to see what it's like, but the effect of her being playable could easily ruin the series. Atropos needed to die--it gave Robo, an "emotionless" being, some very powerful emotion. It did justice to both their characters.

...more people needed to die in CT. In fact, f I could change one more thing, it would be that during the "save Lara" moment; it should be impossible to save her. Hell, she should die. We didn't see enough of the negative effects of tempering with time...

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2009, 11:58:54 am »
Actually, in-game, it helped Lucca out emotionally, even though it did nothing to affect how she fought, or anything.

Besides, what are you implying? That it should be Future Lucca's fault that Lara is crippled?

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2009, 01:29:05 pm »
I think he was saying that instead of being crippled by the machine that she should have died instead...I think the crippling was enough of an impact to drive Lucca, though...if you make the death of a character close to the main cast too casual of an occurrence you can lose impact as well...Lucca's drive to become a scientist made her unique...the fact that she was able to save her mother was just cementing that drive & the overall theme of CT in that nothing is set in stone.

Actually, before Schala's roles in RD and CC were revealed, it was assumed that she did die in the Ocean Palace, since it didn't show her being sent to the 1004 A.D. in Keystone T-1 to be reborn as RD Kid, nor to the DBT where Lavos would later arrive and fuse with her to create the Time Devourer.

You had to have been living in a dreamworld if you thought Schala was actually dead after CT. Not even Marle believed it.

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2009, 01:36:15 pm »
Besides, that was the whole point of the gate, to go back and change it. If it really couldn't be changed, then what was the point?

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2009, 01:40:56 pm »
Not even Marle believed it.

You try being in a collapsing underwater building with no way to get out in time. See if anyone believes you're still alive.

If anything, Magus may have been looking for proof of her fate, and later found out she was at Time's Eclipse.

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Re: If you could change Chrono Trigger, how would you do it?
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2009, 01:48:04 pm »
Yeah "collapsing underwater building" that totally arose from the ocean...and with the Queen who was also there not only untouched, but more powerful...