Where did the Mystics come from?

[utunnels]

Yeah, Piccolo.

[mav]

So would you say that Mystics are the more civilized type and/or the ones that can essentially create a society? While Beasts are just beasts (i.e. animals that attack you). And Fiend or Demon are derogatory terms referring to both Mystics and Beasts? I've always felt that some enemies, like the Bellbird and the Roly-type enemies, were just animals, whereas Gargoyle, Naga-Ette, Hench, and Imp-type enemies were Mystics; they can speak and they can function as a society.

[utunnels]

Good point. Yeah, society.  Mystics can developed enough to start a war against human.
No matter we call them monsters or demons, they are different than wild beasts.

In oriental legends, such "things" are developed from beasts, they gain magic abilities, they can talk like human, they take shapes of human, and they have a society. They are called "魔" or "妖", literally demon or fiend(I know they might be different from demon or fiend in western legends, but that makes sense somehow).

Although CT is not about such legends, but perhaps some ideas are similar.

It reminds me of this topic. I really had trouble giving it a proper translation at that time.
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,6472.msg125290.html#msg125290
The writer of this scenario used various names, dragon, lizard, wolf, beetle,  Imp, Heckran...and he added a "man" at the end of each name: dragonman, lizardman, wolfman, beetleman....
Perhaps that's the true meaning of "Mystics".

[FouCapitan]

It reminds me of this topic. I really had trouble giving it a proper translation at that time.
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,6472.msg125290.html#msg125290
The writer of this scenario used various names, dragon, lizard, wolf, beetle,  Imp, Heckran...and he added a "man" at the end of each name: dragonman, lizardman, wolfman, beetleman....
Perhaps that's the true meaning of "Mystics".

Sounds like a rough idea for the next Megaman game villains.

Jin in that respect most likely is used to represent race or nationality.  For example 日本人 Nihonjin would literally mean Japan Man, but is basically "Japanese" (referring to people).

With that, Majin basically mean a race of demons or a magical creatures, and according to Dragonball they all have Ms on their foreheads..............wat?

[ZealKnight]

It reminds me of this topic. I really had trouble giving it a proper translation at that time.
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,6472.msg125290.html#msg125290
The writer of this scenario used various names, dragon, lizard, wolf, beetle,  Imp, Heckran...and he added a "man" at the end of each name: dragonman, lizardman, wolfman, beetleman....
Perhaps that's the true meaning of "Mystics".

Sounds like a rough idea for the next Megaman game villains.

Jin in that respect most likely is used to represent race or nationality.  For example 日本人 Nihonjin would literally mean Japan Man, but is basically "Japanese" (referring to people).

With that, Majin basically mean a race of demons or a magical creatures, and according to Dragonball they all have Ms on their foreheads..............wat?

So they're dragonese, lizardan, wolfish, and beetlen?

[FouCapitan]

So they're dragonese, lizardan, wolfish, and beetlen?

Actually I think the proper English fictional terms for them would be "ians"

Dragonian, Lizardian, Wolfian (Or maybe it's wolfen, I never understood that movie so I dunno...)

A race of beetles is a toughie though...  Beetlese?

[utunnels]

In fact the writer used "男".

カブトムシ男、デーモン男、トカゲ男
Beetle man,  demon man, Lizard man

Yeah, they are not really "man" of course. That it also said that "魔人" are legacy of ancient magic. That sounds close to this topic, but who knows.

[Thought]

Dragonian, Lizardian, Wolfian (Or maybe it's wolfen, I never understood that movie so I dunno...)

Dragonian, eh? Hmm, I could swear that term was used in Chrono Cross.

utunnels, by any chance do you know if the Dragonians (or even the Reptites) shared this similar naming scheme? (I guess being dragon men and Reptile men, or something like that).

[placidchap]

The correct term would be "beetlezoids"

[utunnels]

utunnels, by any chance do you know if the Dragonians (or even the Reptites) shared this similar naming scheme? (I guess being dragon men and Reptile men, or something like that).

Yeah, but that doesn't means anything, it is just a language habit.

Dragonians - 龍の民 - Dragon Race/People
Reptites - 恐竜人 - Dinosaur men(although this is not a better translation)

[utunnels]

Isn't she either part of or has connections to the Magic Guild though?

Sneff has that magic that turns anyone into a cat...

   Well then, Jack...
   Seeing as how restless and
   irritated you are, here's
   one of my ffavorite tricks!
   I will turn you
   into a cat...!
   I call it...
   '"Cat on a Hot Tin Rooff!"'

I checked the JPN script today, Sneff shouts "ドッペルヘンゲー", which sounds like "dopperuhenge".
Maybe he wants to say "Doppelgang", but his missing teeth make that sounds in a funny way.

[mav]

That does seem a bit more appropriate, if you ask me; the nod to Sprigg is much more inherent.

[ZealKnight]

What does he say if Sprigg is in the party?

[Acacia Sgt]

When Sneff talks about it, is when your party are sill cats and go to talk to him before getting the Handle.

But after, he doesn't seem to react at all to Sprigg.

[utunnels]

That happens before he turns you into cats.
But even if Sprigg is in your party, Sneff won't say anything special.
So, it is doubtable Sneff even knows Sprigg.


Hmm, but...

An old troll gave me a
mysterious berry during
my travels, long ago.
She was saying someffing
about the Bend of Time...

昔、修行の旅をしとった頃不思議な木の実をもらっての。なんでも次元の狭間になるとかならんとか……。

In the old day, when I was on my journey of training I got a mysterious fruit. I think I was in a Temporal Vortex or somewhere...

Notice: 次元の狭間 is official translated as Temporal Vortex, although it means dimension breach(a narrow gap between dimensions). So perhaps Sprigg's Doppelgang skill also came from such fruit.