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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #90 on: April 15, 2009, 10:53:16 pm »
Dub of what?

One thing I find funny is that if you were to pronounce "Masamune" in Japanese, it would be entirely different from how someone English would pronounce it...You know, if "Masamune" was its real name, anyways...

I say eff localized names. Most of them didn't make sense to change anyways. Grandleon FTW~!!

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #91 on: April 15, 2009, 10:57:53 pm »
Dub of what?

One thing I find funny is that if you were to pronounce "Masamune" in Japanese, it would be entirely different from how someone English would pronounce it...You know, if "Masamune" was its real name, anyways...

I say eff localized names. Most of them didn't make sense to change anyways. Grandleon FTW~!!

mav was talking about a fandub several posts back, ostensibly of Chrono Trigger.

And no, most of the localized names don't make much sense, but some of them have their charm. That's Woolsey for ya.

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #92 on: April 15, 2009, 11:04:21 pm »
Wait, I still don't get it...what would you dub...?

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #93 on: April 15, 2009, 11:07:24 pm »
Wait, I still don't get it...what would you dub...?

I guess it wouldn't technically be a dub in a game with no voiceovers, but I'm guessing there's a project to make some. I haven't looked into it because I'm not really interested, but at this point choosing a translation would be a real headache.

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #94 on: April 16, 2009, 01:20:10 am »
Somebody already made a thread about it, she wants to make a fandub in Japanese of a video of her playthrough of the retranslation in english. Kinda confusing idea, she should really stick to either English or Japanese, not audio of one and video of another, but that's my opinion.

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2009, 11:42:52 am »
I agree Bekkler, but, yes, that's the "dub" I was referring to. Right now I think it'll be Japanese with the re-translation acting as in-game captions, or something. It's still in its infancy, but if it's ever in English those doing the voice overs need to pick one (or two) standard pronunciations for all the names.

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #96 on: April 16, 2009, 12:06:14 pm »
I agree Bekkler, but, yes, that's the "dub" I was referring to. Right now I think it'll be Japanese with the re-translation acting as in-game captions, or something. It's still in its infancy, but if it's ever in English those doing the voice overs need to pick one (or two) standard pronunciations for all the names.

I think it'd be really interesting to see how the characters pronounce (or mispronounce) each other's names. If we don't all agree 100% then you know the characters don't all get it right the first time.  :)

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #97 on: April 16, 2009, 12:20:07 pm »
Hah, righto, and it's kinda like real life: when someone has an ethnic or difficult to pronounce names, more often than not different people will pronounce that person's name differently. Friends and family may call Crono CROW-no, while someone who meets him for the first time may call him "CRAW-no".

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #98 on: April 16, 2009, 01:47:38 pm »
You know, if you want to be technical... the ch in Melchior should be prounced not as anyone has yet said it, not like a k, but rather as the ch you might get in the German nacht or, more accurately, a Semitic sound. It is, after all, a Semitic word. I can think at least one other name using the Melch- element, that being Melchizedek. If I'm recalling this correctly, it has the meaning of 'king'. The 'i' is an 'of' or something as that, and in this name at least zedek is 'righteousness.' However, I'm not certain what the 'or' is in Melchior. Anyway, the point is... though we colloquially prounce it (or you should) Mel-key-or (most natural for English), it's not capturing the sound of the actual name.

The same might be said for Janus as well. The J is in fact not a j as we have it, but rather a consonantal 'i'. As such, it's an I sound. Like in the saying 'alaea jacta est.' It's not 'alaya jakta est', rather it's 'al-AI-a YAK-ta est.'

Magus... might have a dj sound for the g in its distant Persian origin, but as it stands, it's been in the Greek, then Latin, vocabulary for the last 2500 years, and as such the standard pronounciation in either of those languages which lack just a sound is a hard g. Nor does the a make a nasal 'a' sound as some seem to have it (this 'MAY-guss'), but rather... well, honestly, I'm not sure of the term of pronuncation. I'm a philologist, but more on etymology and less on pronounciation (what I get for studying unspoken languages.) As it is, it should be 'Mah-guss', technically.

As for those pronouncing it KRAW-no, well, that might be a little closer to the actual pronounciation. Since it comes from khronos, that o is short, and not like our long o that we're wong to put into that position.

The thing is, since many of these names are drawn from older names, of either IE or Semitic origin most of the time, we have to somewhat draw a distinction between the colloquial English pronounciation and the more technical old one, and make a choice between these.

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #99 on: April 16, 2009, 02:06:52 pm »
(krawno)CHRON  O sounds like an ounce of marijuana to me. (lots of "socially colorful" friends from college)
(crow)CRO   NO sounds like a cartoon i saw as a child.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq95Blz5nxI

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #100 on: April 16, 2009, 02:42:31 pm »
Okay, for main CT people, I have Cro no, Lue ssa, Marl, Mag us, and Shaw la.  I think those are the only ones in CT that are debatable.  Oh and it's kind of contradictory, but I tend to pronounce Harle, Har lee when I do Marle Marl.  Is that right?

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Re: How do you pronounce...?
« Reply #101 on: April 16, 2009, 03:23:31 pm »
sounds right to me. I like Harley better than Harl. Sounds too much like Hurl, as in vomit.