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Re: The Thread for Writers
« Reply #315 on: December 05, 2011, 07:52:10 pm »
A Japanese acid trip! It's a fascinating experience, but a completely different kind of game.

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« Reply #316 on: December 05, 2011, 08:29:16 pm »
Dictionary.com's Word of the Day today is frondescence, meaning "leafage; foliage." That made me smile.

How do you pronounce foliage?

I go the "Faux Lee Edge" route, but I've heard it pronounced with the softer "g" (the second one in garage) which sounds more "Foal Yehsch". The second one seems more awkward yet more correct at the same time. Is there a single proper way to say the word or are both correct?

Phonetically, it's "foe lee udge" (like "judge" without the J), although, when you're speaking quickly, in some accents it comes out as "foe lee adge" (like "badge" without the B). The stress is on "FOE." The J is correctly hard.

This reminds me of a recent undertaking I took to learn more about diacritics. As a writer my stylistic preference is to avoid irregular punctuation if I can help it. I hate fake-language stuff that's full of apostrophes, hyphens, and accents. Sometimes, however, I have to use accent marks. For instance, in my book I have a location called Lake Galé, which is two syllables, stress on the second, and has nothing to do with the English word "gale." My only alternative was to change the spelling, such as "Galay." I chose to go with the unconventional spelling and an accent mark because--and I hope you will forgive me for doing this in a prosaic rather than poetic environment--it looked more elegant with the faux-gale spelling. More defensibly, though, it also gives the (informed) reader a slightly different instruction for oral pronunciation. "Galay" is an extended, slower vocalization. "Galé" is crisp and sharper. It lends itself, because of the difficulty of the consonance between K and G, to the silencing of the K in "lake" and a reduction of the vocalization on G. So "Lake Galé" becomes as a single word, with a gap in the middle. It looks elegant on the page and it sounds elegant when spoken aloud. A lazy author would simply have put an apostrophe there in the gap, and would have created a gibberish instruction--because English doesn't use the apostrophe to give those kinds of pronunciation instructions.

Anyhow...when researching the contemporary English instructions that come with the grave accent--I needed to know if this was the correct way to elongate a short E sound--I made a surprising discovery! For all these years I have used accute accents for words that have an irregular pronunciation at the ending, such as the adjective "learnéd," which is two syllables, when I should have been using a grave accent, "learnèd." O, irony! Now I have learned to be more learnèd.

English rules for accent marks continue to be inconsistent and irregular, so even though, going by convention, a grave would be better than an accute for my earlier Lake Galé example--i.e., Lake Galè--English has an exceptional convention of using the accute to process loan words with pronunciation deviations in this very form. So "Lake Galé" is correct.

This is why I don't spend much energy creating fake languages in my writing. I translate everything viable into English. English is complicated enough! and beautiful for it.

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Re: The Thread for Writers
« Reply #317 on: December 08, 2011, 09:11:18 am »
http://techgnotic.deviantart.com/journal/Odyssey-Into-2012-272543956

A collaborative novel project.

Aww, man, why do fun things only happen when I'm busy?! :o

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Re: The Thread for Writers
« Reply #318 on: December 08, 2011, 05:39:22 pm »
http://techgnotic.deviantart.com/journal/Odyssey-Into-2012-272543956

A collaborative novel project.

Aww, man, why do fun things only happen when I'm busy?! :o

I was working with a bunch of friends on a story that started out as fanfic but is now completely unrecognizable for anyone who's played the game other than the locations and appearances of a few canon characters...and it's 300+ Word pages long. Hasn't been touched in about a year though.

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Re: The Thread for Writers
« Reply #319 on: December 10, 2011, 11:21:35 am »
So, writers: When do you listen to music when you write, and when do you keep things quiet? What are the pros and cons for you? Does your music match the mood of the scenes you're writing, or is it purely incidental?

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« Reply #320 on: December 10, 2011, 12:51:20 pm »
Usually music is there more for "white noise" than anything else. If its a song I like, or haven't heard often enough, I can't use it because it might distract me from writing. However, if I am writing something that I'm not interested in, then any music is usually a distraction. The point is more to seal myself off from the rest of the world -- to shut the door, as Steven King puts it -- than to have nice sounds accompanying me as I work.

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« Reply #321 on: December 10, 2011, 02:30:02 pm »
Music directly fuels my writing; chances are if I run into writer's block or a lack of inspiration, it's because I haven't found the right mood piece yet. I've experienced surprising turnarounds on account of this. But the downside is that music can become typecast to me, and that way I can lose many tracks to a specific project if they become ingrained enough into the work. I can't afford many more unfinished works, oh-ho!

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Re: The Thread for Writers
« Reply #322 on: December 10, 2011, 07:46:45 pm »
I can't listen to music while writing.  I need absolute silence in order to write.  This might be a synesthesia thing--I get so distracted while listening to music because of all the movement and the tastes and colours that I cannot multitask.

I do, however, create playlists of songs that remind me of the stories.  The songs help me think and help me develop the story, but I can't listen to them while I'm actually writing.

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« Reply #323 on: December 11, 2011, 06:56:08 am »
I can't afford many more unfinished works, oh-ho!

Hah, yes! I can empathize.

To answer my own question, then, I find that I do a better job writing in silence, but I prefer to listen to music. Go figure. When I do listen to music, I nearly always choose it specifically with regard to the material I am writing. I also use targeted music when I am imagining scenes prior to actually writing them. I've got the whole last several tracks of The Return of the King soundtrack set aside for a special climactic sequence, for instance!

This is all with regard to fiction. With nonfiction, I tend to prefer either silence or a stream of incidental music not connected to the work.

The curious takeaway for me is that I do better fiction when it's quiet. This tells me that the music influences my mood, and my mood influences my writing. As a corollary, writing fiction while listening to music can also lead to minor stylistic inconsistencies, as the "voices" of the different pieces of music make an impact on my work.

As a writer I am always interested in increasing my control over my craft, so it's a fascinating area for me to work on my discipline.

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Re: The Thread for Writers
« Reply #324 on: December 27, 2011, 12:15:34 pm »
Hate organizing your work in Doc, RTF and TXT files in folders and sort? Here's something awesome for you writers out there! I'm thinking of giving this a serious try with my Dropbox / Ubuntu One (aye, I'm always a pioneer)!

http://rednotebook.sourceforge.net/

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Re: The Thread for Writers
« Reply #325 on: December 31, 2011, 12:10:30 am »
After editing a friend's dissertation, I got an interesting editing job from a university professor that should add some meat to my XP rating. I'm going to have the equivalent of about two full-time weeks to edit a graduate-level statistics textbook.

Good opportunity.

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« Reply #326 on: December 31, 2011, 01:14:30 am »
J, would you say that time span is about average for a textbook editing job, or way less than average? Sounds like quite the crunch, especially if it's a 300+ page monster!
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« Reply #327 on: December 31, 2011, 03:06:07 pm »
Congratulations. Though, I am curious, is that a pre-edit before the book is sent off to the publisher, or is it contracted through the university's press, or some such?

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« Reply #328 on: December 31, 2011, 06:44:11 pm »
@ Faust: I would say that I will be pressed for time, definitely, especially considering the depth of the editing I had hoped to perform. I could easily use up four times as many hours. And the book is more in the 500-page range!

@ Thought: It's being funded through some kind of account at the business school, but if I would have to choose from the choices you presented me I would call it a pre-edit. However, I have no knowledge that it will go through another editing process (proofreading notwithstanding) after mine. The publisher might have one of their in-house people look at it. I'm really rather new to this business and don't know all the facts.

Take any further questions for me to our writers group. I won't see them in here.

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« Reply #329 on: February 15, 2012, 04:43:52 pm »
I thought that the following information might be of interest to those who frequent this thread. There is a wonderful podcast run by authors such as Brandon Sanderson that is highly focused on various aspects of the writing process. It is called "Writing Excuses." It's a bit like taking a really good creative writing course, but in 15 minute podcast form. Not only is the information useful, so far it has also been entertaining to listen to.