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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2009, 10:08:49 am »
I hate it when you have an awesome dream you want to tell someone about, but then it just... slips through your mind throughout the day. I have no clue what I dreamt last night and it pisses me off. Ugh.

Lately, I've found myself in my dreams going back and forth between being me and being someone else. I also find weird things in my dreams. Like one time, I was flying in my dream and I landed on a snowy roof. I stepped and looked at where I had just stepped from, but there was no footprint.

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2009, 12:08:24 pm »
I dream regularly but don't recall it terribly often.

The most interesting component to dreams, in my opinion, is the emotional reactions. Dreaming of sights and sounds are all right, but can be simulated fairly well with an overactive imagination and an intense daydream. But I've never been able to daydream the intense emotions that a real dream is capable of. We can deeply love individuals who are nothing but night-phantoms, we can be terrified of nothing in particular. Dreams are quite amazing in that there is more to them than just random thoughts.

What do I dream about? Random stuff, generally nothing exciting.

It is relatively common for me to realize I'm in a dream (maybe one in ten that I remember I realize during it that it is a dream), but I tend to find lucid dreams unappealing and usually try to forget I am dreaming and instead enjoy the ride.

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2009, 12:41:33 pm »
I hate it when you have an awesome dream you want to tell someone about, but then it just... slips through your mind throughout the day. I have no clue what I dreamt last night and it pisses me off. Ugh.
A lot of my more vivid ones are like that too. Eventually it got to the point where I just keep a journal and pen within reach of the bed and jot down as many notes as I can recall, as soon as I wake up. The light doesn't even have to be on; you can decipher the scribbles later. I've gotten some pretty detailed records of things that way. A lot of them are just so bizarre. One involved going to a bar to meet my friends. Instead of numbers on the elevator buttons to get there, there were military ranks like Private and Corporal.  Then when I got to the bar, the first person I met, near the pool table - wearing a sleeveless leather vest with no shirt - was Donald Rumsfeld. He'd recently been fired as Defence Secretary at the time, and was now making his living by residing at this bar, making toy sailboats for children.  :shock: As if that weren't bizarre enough, he'd go on to be part of a fire-breathing burlesque show alongside a scantily-clad Kate Winslet and Susan Sarandon. The dream ended with my friends arriving late, after things had come to a close -- and they were all disappointed that they'd missed out on Rumsfeld!

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2009, 12:52:00 pm »
Anyone had a dream which actually came true ..?

I have I had a dream I was in a restaurant in a foreign country and the waitress I can descibe her perfectly ...dropped my food on the floor .

3 years later ....it actually happened and I had never even been to that place before ...the feeling was so wierd .

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2009, 01:32:01 pm »
Ah, Deja Cordon Bleu, the feeling that you've been in a restaurant before ;)

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2009, 01:36:00 pm »
That would be an interesting explanation for déjà vu.  Rather than just experiencing a similar/identical set of circumstances, it was because you dreamt of the future...or something of that nature.

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2009, 01:51:13 pm »
I had a really, really fucking weird dream last night. Here goes:

I had a dream that my girlfriend and I were in some sort of middle ages town, and we were in a wooden hall where the king was holding some kind of festival that involved games. The games involved throwing balls at moving objects/monsters while avoiding being hit. The one in the middle involved sword fighting with a guy in a dragon suit while the ones on the left and right were the same. I decided to enter to win for my girlfriend. And when I entered I realized the game was really made using all green screens like those old kids TV game shows on Nickelodeon. A girl I knew from High School was there as well and she was the only person I recognized. So I entered, but first I went into the back where there was a CVS and I bought a two piece Reeces peanut butter cup and a gallon of Arizona Iced Tea in preparation for my epic battle. I sold one of the peanut butter cups to this other kid for a dollar to make a profit. I was wearing my scrubs from work, and a medical face mask as well which I believed was for protection in the dream. The woman at the counter said it was obvious I came from the "medical wing" of the facility. Then I woke up.
NOTE: The medieval atmosphere was probably bc of playing Star Ocean before I went to bed, the girl from high school being there was because I saw her in the bar two nights ago and the medieval hall was sort of like a tavern hall - but the rest of it, noooo idea.

What's amusing to me is that while it's illegal, DMT is also naturally produced in every living thing that has a conscious and an unconscious state. It is literally the stuff dreams are made of. The fact that it's used as a drug sounds like an activity straight out of a science fiction novel, but no, it's very real.

There have been reports of seeing lightning bolts coming out of peoples eyes and really intense stuff like that.

Yes, that is one of my many irritations with modern drug law. An even bigger irritation is that this law prevents certain native american groups from practicing their religion in its traditional state in this country  - which seems hugely unconstitional to me.

I should point out though that the hypothesis that DMT regulates dreaming is far from proven, and probably won't be for a long time since the state of the drug laws makes research into it very difficult. But if I were to put my money on it I would say it does. But the fact that it exists in every animal on the planet, and since many species across the animal kingdom have been observed to enter REM sleep, and it exists almost always in the pineal gland in the animals that have it which is associated with melatonin production, strongly suggests to me that it regulates dreaming and/or some base animalistic brain functions.



I had a few very vivid experiences with salvia divinorum, and while most of my friends were either terrified or temporarily felt what is immediately described as "permanently changed" and I will note the irony in that the feeling goes away rather quickly, just like the drug's effects. I experienced the same thing almost every time I tried it, which is why I found it annoying. I'd be in a sitting position, then suddenly, my couch or chair would spin backwards and I'd be rotated on an axis like the whole couch is a revolving door turned sideways, and every time I made it 90 degrees I was in a different dimension, where everything was there, but felt like all new actors playing the same old characters. It made me feel unsettled, but the feeling would always go away.

I highlighted the two parts which are the hallmarks of a Salvia divinorum experience. Feeling as if you are no longer yourself and are living life as another, and feeling as if you are traversing dimensions, are very common sensations. It is puzzling to me that an individual feels this way, when conscious logical thought is almost completely eradicated during the experience. The sensation of entering another dimension feels like it is coming from deep in your soul. I'd say from your two descriptions you were a couple levels down from the maximum experience intensity that Salvia can produce. Another step up and you would have had an out of body experience, ego-death, a sensation of multiple reincarnations, a sensation of being outside of the entire universe, and a sensation of perceiving eternity. A 15 minute trip feels like it lasts days at that point. Very strange indeed. When you return, you feel as if the "real" world is an alien one, and you don't belong there because the Salvia world was so much more real.

It is very trying on the psyche, but I believe that anyone interested in entheogens should experience at least ego-death at some point in their lives, and Salvia offers an easy and safe (but powerful) medium for accomplishing that goal.
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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2009, 04:06:20 pm »
I highlighted the two parts which are the hallmarks of a Salvia divinorum experience. Feeling as if you are no longer yourself and are living life as another, and feeling as if you are traversing dimensions, are very common sensations. It is puzzling to me that an individual feels this way, when conscious logical thought is almost completely eradicated during the experience. The sensation of entering another dimension feels like it is coming from deep in your soul. I'd say from your two descriptions you were a couple levels down from the maximum experience intensity that Salvia can produce. Another step up and you would have had an out of body experience, ego-death, a sensation of multiple reincarnations, a sensation of being outside of the entire universe, and a sensation of perceiving eternity. A 15 minute trip feels like it lasts days at that point. Very strange indeed. When you return, you feel as if the "real" world is an alien one, and you don't belong there because the Salvia world was so much more real.

It is very trying on the psyche, but I believe that anyone interested in entheogens should experience at least ego-death at some point in their lives, and Salvia offers an easy and safe (but powerful) medium for accomplishing that goal.

Very true. It's like after you do it, you forgot you just did it, and everything around you isn't there to remind you what you just did. Scared the hell out of literally all of my friends, who were fine with mushrooms, lsd, and mdma. I was the only one out of us that had anything close to a positive experience.

This sounds a bit more out there than my previous posts, but as accurately as I can describe it, one of the times I tried salvia and had the revolving door through dimensions effect, I tried to pull myself out of it and "find" the correct universe where I belonged, unsuccessfully I might add. It was like I was leaving each universe in layers, zooming out more and more (I was reminded of the Dilbert animated series intro video) until I was actually at the outmost layer, when the "real" world/universe/dimension was at the center. This could have been a sense of reincarnation, or an out of body experience, but I couldn't put my finger on it at the time, it was like my soul was passing through several different versions of my own body, each one appearing identical but each felt radically different and somehow wrong.


I do agree, everyone should experience the shedding of the ego at least once, if only to know how basic instinct feels at the core and to understand how remarkable the human mind actually is. It's very eye-opening, and after discussion and analysis of what occured, you start to understand your self much better.

We always joked that the meaning of life can be found in the depths of an acid trip, and this is only funny to people who have done it because you know you come to a conclusion and repeat said conclusion out loud, over and over and over, as if it's new. Yes, I know the meaning. Everyone does, in the deepest parts of their mind, but it's so incredibly mundane, it often goes unnoticed, or worse: unappreciated.

What is the meaning of life, then? It's simply "to live".
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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2009, 09:59:30 pm »
I have verbal and thought processes in my dreams.  As in sometimes dream-version-of-me actually thinks instead of speaks.

Does anyone else have that?

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2009, 11:33:49 pm »
I have verbal and thought processes in my dreams.  As in sometimes dream-version-of-me actually thinks instead of speaks.

Does anyone else have that?

Yeah, you mean like nobody talks, or like you think instead of talk but everyone hears you anyway? I've had both before. Haven't noticed whether it's constant.

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2009, 11:37:56 pm »
Perhaps your own life is nothing but a lucid dream. :lol:

I, at least, think that that would make things seem even more amazing if I knew that to be so!

That would be an interesting explanation for déjà vu.  Rather than just experiencing a similar/identical set of circumstances, it was because you dreamt of the future...or something of that nature.

It could also be that sometimes the brain retroactively creates a false memory of having dreamed of the event.

I have verbal and thought processes in my dreams.  As in sometimes dream-version-of-me actually thinks instead of speaks.

Does anyone else have that?

I think I've had that once that I can recall. I think 'I' did a 'tricky' bit of maths in my head (in my head). I can't remember any more than that, so it could've been anything from a 'large' sum to solving a quadratic equation to something else. Although, knowing me, maybe I just recited pi.

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2009, 02:33:11 am »
I have verbal and thought processes in my dreams.  As in sometimes dream-version-of-me actually thinks instead of speaks.

Does anyone else have that?

Yeah, you mean like nobody talks, or like you think instead of talk but everyone hears you anyway? I've had both before. Haven't noticed whether it's constant.
Or the more annoying instances where you think you talk but nobody seems to hear you, or you try to talk and don't have any voice.  Those sometimes end up with me trying harder and harder to be heard, but then I wake up shouting.

I've scared the crap out of my parents doing that before.

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2009, 08:15:18 am »
I have verbal and thought processes in my dreams.  As in sometimes dream-version-of-me actually thinks instead of speaks.

Does anyone else have that?

Yeah, you mean like nobody talks, or like you think instead of talk but everyone hears you anyway? I've had both before. Haven't noticed whether it's constant.
Or the more annoying instances where you think you talk but nobody seems to hear you, or you try to talk and don't have any voice.  Those sometimes end up with me trying harder and harder to be heard

I have had dreams where I talk but the words are incredibly hard to pronounce correctly and I can't manage to communicate properly.

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2009, 10:40:59 pm »
I just had a rather strange dream last night that involved school (some sort, not one I recognize...perhaps a conglomeration of sorts)...a bathroom with a bunch of strange toiletries...getting to class, giving my ex something (possibly a remote control for the class's tv)...seeing the buses were there and it was time to go...and then me doing a headplant straight into concrete and coming away with mostly annoyance that there was bits of concrete in my forehead...

It was the first dream I've had in a while and I blame this thread! Though I also just saw I Am Legend (quite a lot better than I thought it'd be) right before I went to sleep and was wondering if I was going to have crazy zombie dreams...lol

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Re: So... Do you dream?
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2009, 10:58:08 pm »
Mine last night was very weird...

I was in my room, reading. Can't remember what, but suddenly I was now climbing a snow-covered mountain with some others who I can't remember. Then crossed through a city (still going up the mountain), and then the summit, and after descending the mountain through the other side, but turned back, and instead of back to the city we arrived to a ruined temple.

Now this is where it got stranger. We crossed the entrance, then some hallways, down some stairs, and finally to a dark corridor. And all of a sudden some of them started to fall dead on the floor. Panicked, the rest of us ran back to the entrance, but instead we came back to a restaurant, in the middle of a forest instead of a mountain now.

However, the temple was still back there, so we tried again. When we got back through the hallways (now with sand falling from the windows) to the corridor, it was now a huge floor less hall with a bridge connecting the other side. And after more stairs filled with skeletons we had to fight, and then I ran ahead... only to find myself back in my room.

Then I woke up. Seriously, that beats any other dream I had so far in terms of weirdness.