Lynx/Dark Serge's Having Kid Around

[SilentMartyr]

She only has a French accent in the English version, I forget what she sounds like in the Japanese version.

[V_Translanka]

Less like a retard. I'm fairly sure she has no accent at all...

[Zaperking]

Maybe she'd have a Kansai accent? You know like the fuedal age japanese merchant type one. With slang, or would that be Kid.

[Zatopek]

Okay, maybe a dumb question.  It's been awhile since I've played CC...

If Kid's pendant rewinds time a bit to save her from death, why the whole poison-knife/hydra humor incident/quest.  Shouldn't she be just fine and forget getting stabbed on the balcony?  Or did she not have her pendant at that particular time?  And where exactly in the game are the pendant's properties explained?

[Chrono'99]

Okay, maybe a dumb question.  It's been awhile since I've played CC...

If Kid's pendant rewinds time a bit to save her from death, why the whole poison-knife/hydra humor incident/quest.  Shouldn't she be just fine and forget getting stabbed on the balcony?  Or did she not have her pendant at that particular time?  And where exactly in the game are the pendant's properties explained?

That's a good question. Another one : is it really time which is rewinded or just Kid's health?

Anyway, perhaps the pendant rewinds stuff only when Kid is actually killed (like at Fort Dragonia), not before.

[Assassin of Time]

because she's stupid, annoying, quick to fall to vengence, and talks with a weird accent

But she's Schala reincarnate  

[Shrimpaholic]

No one has addressed the real issue here. If Kid's pendant rewinds time so she does not remember being stabbed, and also does not remember that Serge and Lynx switched, when she wakes up later it should be very clear to her something is very wrong with Serge. He dresses completely differently, he ACTS completely different (I think he goes around terrorizing people in the cities with his shadow cats - at least Arni is afraid of him), and his goals would have changed a lot since the last memory of him. Yet she doesn't question any of this and continues to follow him around? I don't understand at all. You could say Dark Serge altered her memory using FATE, but if that's the case then the whole pendant part holds no relevance since FATE un-did her memories.

I never understood why Dark Serge became all mean anyway. He just suddenly goes around terrorizing people? I wonder why that is.

[chrono eric]

Regardless your memoire az zis Serge... You may be able to rewrite it if you use ze Dragon Tear.

She is not literally saying that Lynx has inherited Serge's memories. They most definitely have switched bodies by switching consciousnesses, and even if they just switched memories, as you suggested in an earlier post, this would not be the same thing as switching consciousnesses. Think if you lost your memories through amnesia, would you suddenly be a different person? No.

What Harle is doing here is trying to "psyche" Serge out. She taunts him by asking him how he knows he's really Serge, when he clearly looks like Lynx. It is noteworthy that for the majority of the time that Serge is in Lynx's body, Harle refers to him as "Lynx", but by the time she leaves the party, she has started calling him "Serge".

[Dark Serge]

Okay, maybe a dumb question.  It's been awhile since I've played CC...

If Kid's pendant rewinds time a bit to save her from death, why the whole poison-knife/hydra humor incident/quest.  Shouldn't she be just fine and forget getting stabbed on the balcony?  Or did she not have her pendant at that particular time?  And where exactly in the game are the pendant's properties explained?

It doesn't actually rewind time or something like that. She forgets about it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. The wounds still remain regardless of her memory.

As for the whole body switching... They switched bodies or they switched minds. It's pretty much the same. As for Dark Serge keeping Kid around, not only did she not remember the stabbing, he also used a mind spell on her. Obviously, otherwise she wouldn't have gone along with it.

[art_garfunkel]

Okay, maybe a dumb question.  It's been awhile since I've played CC...

If Kid's pendant rewinds time a bit to save her from death, why the whole poison-knife/hydra humor incident/quest.  Shouldn't she be just fine and forget getting stabbed on the balcony?  Or did she not have her pendant at that particular time?  And where exactly in the game are the pendant's properties explained?

It doesn't actually rewind time or something like that. She forgets about it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. The wounds still remain regardless of her memory.

As for the whole body switching... They switched bodies or they switched minds. It's pretty much the same. As for Dark Serge keeping Kid around, not only did she not remember the stabbing, he also used a mind spell on her. Obviously, otherwise she wouldn't have gone along with it.

Supported. Replay the attack by Dark Serge on Hermit's Hideaway. He refers to Serge-Lynx as Serge openly right in from of Kid, and she doesn't even flinch. Clearly she is not herself.

When you complete the Hydra Humour quest, and you talk to Kid, she says that she would have been fine anyway. I don't remember the exact phrase used, but she implies that she knows she is immune to death somehow.

[utunnels]

It is ineresting they even switch skills, but not weapons...

[Dark Serge]

They don't switch skills, Dark Serge keeps Glide, FeralCats and ForeverZero. My guess is that Serge just can't get used to Serge's body so he can't use his own skills effectively.

[utunnels]

Ah, that's even stranger. So Lynx(or we say real Serge) mastered those skill at once, does that means they are parts of the body?
Never mind, I'm not too curious about that.
Since they have designed a Lynx, if you can't use the new skills, what's the point?

[Umaro]

Harle: Ooh la lah... So, you still insist zat you are Serge, oui? Regardless your memoire az zis Serge... You may be able to rewrite it if you use ze Dragon Tear. In realite, you died 10 yearz ago in ze odder world. How can you say for sure zis iz ze real you? Maybe for you it is evident, but... I wonder if you ever really were Serge...? Furthermore... what waz zis Serge? A figure, a shape? A spirit? A soul? Where waz zis Serge?

For the most part, I think this is Harle just taunting Serge. Since he arrived in Another World, he had been protesting that he was Serge, and in reality, he wasn't. He was a Serge, but in Another World Serge was long dead. Now Harle is making fun of him because he's still saying he's Serge, and she's kind of saying, "but are you really?" Has he ever really been Serge? After all, the real Serge was supposed to die.

I think the "mind control" over Kid must have something to do with this. Serge "becoming Lynx," so to speak, was the first real substance Another World gave him, and maybe he was even beginning to wonder if he was Serge. It's not like anyone in Another World gave him any validation up to that point in the game. In fact, he garners more acceptance from the demi-humans as Lynx. It isn't until near the end of the game that he starts learning more about himself and who he really is. Maybe that's why Harle finally starts calling him "Serge."

Not that a simple mind control spell seems out of Lynx's realm of power, but it's just to easy a solution for me. I like to think of it as, no one really knew Serge. He didn't exist in that world; his companions were following a ghost. So if someone shows up looking like Serge, even he is acting weirder than when they first met him, who are a group of people who just met him to claim that this isn't the person Serge was all along?

[Dark Serge]

I don't follow your reasoning... You're saying Kid wouldn't know because she didn't know who Serge was to begin with? I think they know quite a lot about his character... And Serge stabbing Kid and talking about how he'll send her to see Lucca, whose name she never mentioned to Serge... Sorry, that's too far fetched imo. Serge may have had no place in Another World, but that doesn't mean he has no substance or that he's a ghost. He's still a guy of flesh and blood but simply in a place where he doesn't belong.