The Month That Could Have Been -- Chapter 4

[IAmSerge]

I don't think so.  Square would probably just sue them AGAIN for the release of the Beta.  so it would just be getting double the fines, and maybe even Jail time for being a repeat offender.

what do you mean "Again"?

[Acacia Sgt]

That SE would sue them for the leaked Alpha, then if they released the Beta, sued again.

[phelph]

Square might be lenient because only the buggy, 75% version got out. If the more complete, more fun 98% beta got out they might be more inclined to sue.

assuming the C&D was real, i cant imagine square would know the difference between the 98% and the alpha. Its not as if square saw any version of the game when they sent that letter (besides maybe the demo). So why would the early version be any different to them than the finished product? The letter also made square appear to have minimal understanding of what the mod even was (temporal flux overriding copy protection). So if they did care about this, no reason to think theyd look at a download of a rom that said "98% finished" and then go "oh, this must only be the 75% version, its okay to release that. Oh, its also okay to use our copyrighted music, and content and images in youtube videos and promote those as the game we told you to cease all activity on, do that as much as you want too."

in other news, i called again yesterday, the receptionist doesnt even talk to me after saying how can i help you, and transfers me to leave a message for one of their PR people.

[Agent 12]

Phelph,

Did she literally not even let you talk to her? What did you say/ask?


--JP

[IAmSerge]

That SE would sue them for the leaked Alpha, then if they released the Beta, sued again.

...though they haven't already been sued right?

unless I missed something

[Acacia Sgt]

They haven't. However, someone commented how if SE would sue for any version leaked, then they should release the Beta since they already are for the leaked Alpha.

Yet, I don't think they should

[Corpse69]

i really think they wouldent care if it got released or not now because of the amount of damage they brought on themselves from the C&D and because of the leak people are going on about some random group that will finish the alpha off but hey that would be good but just wouldent happen with out kajar labs info to aid  and some one who knows how to use it well

but hey if its really happening that may be a good thing

[kattrali]

Isn't the amount of damages (whether one lawsuit or two) still dependent on the value lost or damages incurred by Square Enix?  I have a hard time believing that they could get 150k (let alone 300k) from this. The Alpha is said to be missing some dialogue and scenes, and lacks any "polish". No one is going to get it and say, "This is way better than [insert new/random SE game here].  I'll play this instead of paying for a game!"

...Actually, that scenario is perhaps possible if the game in question is Last Remnant, but that's beside the point.  In any case, I'd still not want to find out in front of a judge. Having a real life is vastly more important.

As a side note, what is the status of Temporal Flux in all this?  Was it discussed at all in negotiations?  I suppose it doesn't matter if you can't make games with it, but it still requires a copy of the game to begin with.

*Returning to watching amazing footage*

[KebreI]

Temporal flux is perfectly safe from SE, it has been established. You can still do what you want with it, but the compendium will no longer provide the resources.

[kid123]

The amount of damage could be increased when 'random' people get a hand on the games and polished it up.In addition this issue has been wide spread even in Japan, I meet upon someone who said a plenty of Japenese disliked SE, that could mean there are a lot of die-hard Japanese fan of CT and even CE. Heck, I could assume that there might be a Japanese translation of leaked games in progress. That might increased the damage.

March forward to the footage ~~~

[Corpse69]

this whole mess is becoming confuzzling with the leak and SE sitting idle i really think they would have sued regardless it was an alpha or 98% complete version so it probably was just a threat to scare you guys. i don't think there looking for anymore trouble then what was already dished out

the damage for them is already bad for SE it cant get much worse even if the 98% beta was leaked
and die hard fans would fix the alpha up given enough time

[phelph]

Phelph,

Did she literally not even let you talk to her? What did you say/ask?


--JP

she said her little introduction, and then i told her i was looking for information about a c&d that was issued to chronocompendium, and whether she or someone else could confirm it, and she said nothing and hit the transfer button.

[utunnels]

Maybe they've received too many calls?

[FaustWolf]

Wow phelph, sounds like your call hit a nerve. Square might be pissed at how the C&D backfired on them politically.

Nice.

[phelph]

either their receptionist is rude, or its a call theyre tired of hearing. I dont really know what to think.