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[ZombieBucky]

I'll give names, then. It's kando and his friends.

i thought that the dark3mx guy was doing it too. arent they like seperate groups or whatever?
dont care about that kind of thing. just dont make it totally shitty. make it a mirror of the videos (or the closest you can) or dont try at all. but maybe they should make their own game.
i dont know how hard any of it is, so whatever.

[FaustWolf]

The reason why it's wrong to restore CE is that the project was C&D'd under very specific terms, with specific punishment assigned to specific people. Even if someone not mentioned in the C&D released a finished CE, SE might hypothetically inflict the stated punishment on the CE team just as a hairtrigger reaction. The chance of this happening might be small, yes, but it's there -- and given the size of the punishment, it is non-negligible.

I'd hope that kando would find some value in contributing his talents to other fan projects for which no such risk exists.

[kando]

I'll give names, then. It's kando and his friends.

no, its kando. alone. and if it gets complete, it wont be "released".
and if it gets complete, any means to keep the attention on me and away from the ce team will be done.

....if.

it probably wont ever get finished anyway.
zeality blew my cover :[

[FaustWolf]

kando, I've seen your work on CE before you pulled the videos, and I honestly feel you've got quite a bit of talent -- definitely moreso than myself in sheer technical terms and room for growth. There are other opportunities out there, even outside the Chrono franchise, and potentially legitimate within the current limits of copyright law if the pitch is successful (which I have outlined elsewhere, if you'd be interested in helping with that -- you're certainly more than welcome, should the possibility inspire you).

[ZaichikArky]

That's kind of mean. Jerk.  

Oh yay excuse to use my second favorite random emoticon.  

Also, what I find really funny is that at first Zeality was like "OH HEY I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU DO WITH THE ALPHA. GO AT IT!!" And now every opportunity he finds to bash the restoration people, he takes. Change of mind much? I don't really get the new animosity.

[kando]

kando, I've seen your work on CE before you pulled the videos, and I honestly feel you've got quite a bit of talent -- definitely moreso than myself in sheer technical terms and room for growth. There are other opportunities out there, even outside the Chrono franchise, and potentially legitimate within the current limits of copyright law if the pitch is successful (which I have outlined elsewhere, if you'd be interested in helping with that -- you're certainly more than welcome, should the possibility inspire you).

when the time and opportunities come, i am ready.

i mean seriously, the only reason im even doing this little project is because i just want the game...its for me to play it. like i said, IF i even finish it, it wont be released, and i may even change the name to further disassociate it with ce.

i mean hell if i had the beta id have no reason to be doing this.... and damn you fw for making my head spin, ur giving me an ethics guilt trip >.<

Also, what I find really funny is that at first Zeality was like "OH HEY I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU DO WITH THE ALPHA. GO AT IT!!" And now every opportunity he finds to bash the restoration people, he takes. Change of mind much? I don't really get the new animosity.

he bashed me? i didnt see him bash me.

[ZeaLitY]

I really don't care what they do; I "outed" them (I thought it was obvious it was them, since they told just about everyone) because they generally behaved like jerks. Not going into specifics, but we were about to have enough complaints to have them blocked from #compendium.

And please, "everyone get mad at ZeaLitY" is hilarious, since I helped make the game. Ingrates.

[kando]

GAH i keep hitting quote instead of modify >.<

[ZaichikArky]

Not really this time, but he was obviously trying to be a douchebag by saying your name when I explicitly said not to. Usually if any kind of talk of restoration projects are made, he says something about how idiotic people have to be to try to do it because of the inherent time-consuming nature of it and how it's basically impossible to do. Really don't appreciate it, and especially very hypocritical of him considering his whole "SPRINGTIME OF YOUTH!!" thing. Isn't the motto to do the impossible?

I really don't care what they do; I "outed" them (I thought it was obvious it was them, since they told just about everyone) because they generally behaved like jerks. Not going into specifics, but we were about to have enough complaints to have them blocked from #compendium.

Where the hell is this coming from? How has Kando been disrespectful in ANY way?

[ZeaLitY]

I'm not telling you specifics, or the reporters will be called whiners, etc. Ramsus, myself, and the IRC moderators received complaints of jerk behavior more than once about him and a few others.

[kando]

I really don't care what they do; I "outed" them (I thought it was obvious it was them, since they told just about everyone) because they generally behaved like jerks. Not going into specifics, but we were about to have enough complaints to have them blocked from #compendium.

Where the hell is this coming from? How has Kando been disrespectful in ANY way?

i dont think he was talking about me, as i havent been outed...id hope, and i think im right, that the staff here can see i try my best to be a good guy, not an asshole.

im pretty sure he's talking about the leakers, and that other pathetic excuse of a "team" doing the other restoration...they are leaking bastards who are, if they are even still working on it, embarrassingly destroying what was the ce leak.

if im wrong, by all means correct me

*edit* oh nm apparantly i got complaints? heh id love to hear those, as i do all i can to be friendly. either way, i dont believe i have been disrespectful here.

[ZaichikArky]

I don't particularly care who bitched about kando.  I have never seen any bad behavior from him.  If there really is something that Kando did, I don't know about it and I really doubt he'd do anything mean. Regardless, he never did anything against you and whatever he's accused of doing to others is beside the point. You NEVER think you're in the wrong about anything, even when others will say you are, and it was a DICK move to "out" him. I hope he doesn't get any more harassment because of you.

[IAmSerge]

*blink blink*


WTF is going on here?

[ZeaLitY]

I don't particularly care who bitched about kando.  I have never seen any bad behavior from him.  If there really is something that Kando did, I don't know about it and I really doubt he'd do anything mean. Regardless, he never did anything against you and whatever he's accused of doing to others is beside the point. You NEVER think you're in the wrong about anything, even when others will say you are, and it was a DICK move to "out" him. I hope he doesn't get any more harassment because of you.

First, many, many people knew he was already doing this. I'm surprised you didn't. Second, you need to calm down. You're not a Compendium administrator or moderator, nor are you one of the parties complaints get reported to. Third, regardless of whether he did something to me, Compendium moderators and administrators are tasked with resolving disputes in the community. And fourth, don't claim the authority to tell me what to do with something that I, Agent 12, and Chrono'99 made, especially something we can incur legal liability for and that can have the Compendium removed.

[ZaichikArky]

Fine I'll "calm down". I'm done arguing about this, but regardless of me not being a moderator(and no, I never even want to ever moderate any place I am at), I will always stand up for people being bullied. End of discussion for me. You can keep arguing with others if you want.