New question, Old problem

[Mr Bekkler]

I just realized something, while looking at an older thread. Somebody wanted to know how Marle could have possibly dropped her pendant in the beginning of the game when she goes through the first gate and how Crono could have possibly held on to it.

That's not my question, but a BETTER question comes from it. (Or should I say a BEKKLER question? Teeheehee)

How the fuck does Lucca get to 600AD withOUT the pendant?

[IAmSerge]

I just realized something, while looking at an older thread. Somebody wanted to know how Marle could have possibly dropped her pendant in the beginning of the game when she goes through the first gate and how Crono could have possibly held on to it.

That's not my question, but a BETTER question comes from it. (Or should I say a BEKKLER question? Teeheehee)

How the fuck does Lucca get to 600AD withOUT the pendant?

Lucca built the gate key... >.> what?

[Mr Bekkler]

Lucca built the gate key... >.> what?

 Out of thin air? She didn't take a piece of the pendant or anything, and that's all the explanation it would have needed. How? How? How?

[Chrono'99]

Lucca built the gate key... >.> what?

 Out of thin air? She didn't take a piece of the pendant or anything, and that's all the explanation it would have needed. How? How? How?

The Yuji Horii effect.

[IAmSerge]

Lucca built the gate key... >.> what?

 Out of thin air? She didn't take a piece of the pendant or anything, and that's all the explanation it would have needed. How? How? How?

she built the telepod, which used technology to transport people through space...
... under the same basic logic of the telepod, she built the gate key, which uses gates to emulate what the telepod did, because all the telepod did was have an entrance, exit, and time in between.  Its just that the entrances and exits were just different t coordinates instead of different xyz coordinates.

[Chrono'99]

Yeah, the Gate Key stabilizes Gates that already exist, like the blue ones found scattered around. The pendant opened the first one at the Telepod but that's about all it did. In the rest of the game it's the Gate Key that opens Gates.

[Mr Bekkler]

Telepod was the first invention she made that actually worked (Gato doesn't count). And whether it worked is still debatable. How does she go from town fool to time conquerer? Is it really plausible that a crappy inventor could watch her friend disappear and instantly 1. know he travelled through time and 2. know how to tweak the telepod technology to allow her to do the same?

She went from Wile E. Coyote to Albert Einstein!

[OverlordMikey]

Lucca built the gate key... >.> what?

 Out of thin air? She didn't take a piece of the pendant or anything, and that's all the explanation it would have needed. How? How? How?

The Yuji Horii effect.

No no no no Marle is an Avatar of the Planet and so is Lucca. Chrono is their friend and foolish stooge/choosen one. Although it's possible that Marle is mearly guided by the planets whims an is mearly it's daughetr (yes Marle is the Jesus of Chrono Trigger...Lavos was supposed to kill her but Chrono switched with her) well Lucca is a living human vessal of the Planet, the gate key is a ruse to keep her human friend in the dark. That's why the Red Gate appears as well, Lucca realises she cares about her human parents and the planet begins to relive it's memory of the event! All events that transpire are exactly as Lucca, the planet, and subconsussly Marle planned it.

At this point the only thing that can be said it "why not."

Yeah, the Gate Key stabilizes Gates that already exist, like the blue ones found scattered around. The pendant opened the first one at the Telepod but that's about all it did. In the rest of the game it's the Gate Key that opens Gates.

Yes "gate key" all hail the great Entity Lucca! (Ask yourself how much of what I say is a joke and how much is dead serious)

Telepod was the first invention she made that actually worked (Gato doesn't count). And whether it worked is still debatable. How does she go from town fool to time conquerer? Is it really plausible that a crappy inventor could watch her friend disappear and instantly 1. know he travelled through time and 2. know how to tweak the telepod technology to allow her to do the same?

She went from Wile E. Coyote to Albert Einstein!

I thought the whole everything Lucca builds explodes thing was just a translation thing or an exageration of the danger. I mean you can't make an omlete without breaking a few eggs right so mistakes happen and rumors spread.

[Mr Bekkler]

No no no no Marle is an Avatar of the Planet and so is Lucca. Chrono is their friend and foolish stooge/choosen one. Although it's possible that Marle is mearly guided by the planets whims an is mearly it's daughetr (yes Marle is the Jesus of Chrono Trigger...Lavos was supposed to kill her but Chrono switched with her) well Lucca is a living human vessal of the Planet, the gate key is a ruse to keep her human friend in the dark. That's why the Red Gate appears as well, Lucca realises she cares about her human parents and the planet begins to relive it's memory of the event! All events that transpire are exactly as Lucca, the planet, and subconsussly Marle planned it.

At this point the only thing that can be said it "why not."

Umm, I think you have things confused with each other. First, Lavos was going to kill everyone, not specifically Marle. You may be thinking Schala. I'm not sure what you're thinking, really. But none of this is based on in-game evidence. Neither does any of it make sense.

[Chrono'99]

The Gate Key doesn't create Gates, it just stabilizes them. She didn't have to know what lies on the other side.

[IAmSerge]

Telepod was the first invention she made that actually worked (Gato doesn't count). And whether it worked is still debatable. How does she go from town fool to time conquerer? Is it really plausible that a crappy inventor could watch her friend disappear and instantly 1. know he travelled through time and 2. know how to tweak the telepod technology to allow her to do the same?

She went from Wile E. Coyote to Albert Einstein!

the whole "traveled through time" thing wouldn't be hard for her to figure out... shes a geek/nerd, so she HAS to be some kind of history buff.  With her knowledge of the past, I'm pretty sure she could easily have put 2 and 2 togethor by the time she reached the castle.  That, and she probably could have gone up and asked someone / overheard something related to that time period.


Its not that the telepod was teh first thing that actually worked, its just that so many times her inventions, despite being, usually, quite well planned out and well made, would often have some sort of error or mistake in them... and rather than taking the time to debug BEFORE showing off her intellect, she usually just builds/sets up things on-site.  Its kindof like making a video game, and releasing it without ANY debugging, error checking, or beta testing.

^^ btw that was all speculation

[Mr Bekkler]

But what is in the Gate Key that stabilizes gates?

I'm afraid I'm just going to have to believe that when Marle dropped the pendant, part of it chipped off, and that part was collected by Lucca and placed in the center of the Gate Key, along with a piece (or structure) of whatever was in the Telepod that reacted with the pendant, all of which she forgot to mention because Crono doesn't like talking about technical things anyway.

[tapir3147]

The gate key's not the same material as the pendant, otherwise you would be able to open the sealed doors/boxes with the gate key.

[Mr Bekkler]

The gate key's not the same material as the pendant, otherwise you would be able to open the sealed doors/boxes with the gate key.

Well you could. If it was charged.

BOO YA.

[kid123]

Added the fact that it doesn't glow in front of Mammon Machine, but maybe it is a small pieces, so it doesn't really react actively.This text maybe some use....

Well, if you say so...  Anyway, I call this thing a Gate.  It's a kind
of portal, that takes you to the same location in a different era.  Gates are
very unstable, so I used the principal behind my Telepod device to create a
Gate Key.  Now we can use them as we please.

Yes, she went from Wile E. Coyote to Albert Einstein!