The Month That Could Have Been: Bonus Footage and Credits

[Katie Skyye]

Just so everyone knows, Vehek deserves a huge amount of credit for...oh hell, we can't even talk about it now. So does justin3009. And especially, especially Geiger for...damn, these limitations are cutting out half of what I'm trying to say.

I'm not sure I follow...did the C&D state somewhere that you couldn't talk about the project, or was it something the CE team decided on--to not speak about certain things?

[lunar7]

insane fan stupor

haha even though that's not the case, it sure brings a funny mental image to mind!

And once again, I have to say I agree with Mikisho, watching the credits was very sad because what was done on this project was incredibly special and deserved a far better fate - I can only hope that as many of us will continue to remember and admire the unprecedented work done on this project, I know I will.

anyways, another sad aspect of the whole affair is now it seems very difficult to find the line where fan projects are legitimate and where they aren't.

for instance, i was hoping to start a fan project of injecting alternative original theme music into all of the original CT music placeholders, to have a new playable CT rom that might have an interestingly different atmosphere because of all the new music.

IMHO this would not be an illegal activity, but i've been especially nervous about asking for advice on how to go about this, and so have only done so hesitantly so far at best. I mean, besides this forum, I really don't know where to go for help... I am half-decent at programming, and know it's a matter of writing MIDI files that would result in SPC files of identical size, writing the utility to convert MIDI back to SPC, and writing another utility to inject the SPC files into the ROM the opposite way they were extracted...

thanks for any replies, even if just to confirm that it is inappropriate to ask here - I'm sure I'll figure out something eventually.

[Vehek]

The SPC data wouldn't have to be identical in size. It could be placed elsewhere in the ROM.

[SuperSlash]

Amazing. I loved the human Glenn sprites, as well as many of the other unused sprites. And the whole "relax" stuff was funny. XD


Seeing the CE logo at the end made me sad... Mainly because it's the same image used at the end of the CE trailer that was on the CE website. The first time I saw that, I seriously couldn't wait for the game to be released, and now... Ugh. Oh well, at least we got to see footage of the whole game and its endings, credits, and sprites. A job well done, guys.

[V_Translanka]

Just so everyone knows, Vehek deserves a huge amount of credit for...oh hell, we can't even talk about it now. So does justin3009. And especially, especially Geiger for...damn, these limitations are cutting out half of what I'm trying to say.

I'm not sure I follow...did the C&D state somewhere that you couldn't talk about the project, or was it something the CE team decided on--to not speak about certain things?

I could be wrong, but I think that's FW kind of trying to talk around some of the names of contributers who wished to remain off the credits roll...

[kid123]

So, the Crimson Echoes uploading video activities have come to end, and Month that Could  Have Been ended here at the same time.
Well, are you guys will send us C&D if we write a fanfiction or ROM hack that served as expansion of CE ? 

jk, There are no wrong with the sprite. Congratulations for making this far, you guys did great with even the credit reel and bonus footage.

[nightmare975]

I don't give two shits about SE anymore, I wish others had the balls to do what I did.

BTW, I never got the chance to see the developer's room, I still couldn't believe what Tony did. 

[FaustWolf]

I'm not sure I follow...did the C&D state somewhere that you couldn't talk about the project, or was it something the CE team decided on--to not speak about certain things?

I just worry that talking about some of the technical things here would leave SE the impression that the Compendium is still into game modding, which it most certainly is not nowadays, in direct compliance with the C&D.

Oh, that's right -- nightmare, you actually opted to use your real-world name. A bold symbolic act.

[KebreI]

I don't give two shits about SE anymore, I wish others had the balls to do what I did.

BTW, I never got the chance to see the developer's room, I still couldn't believe what Tony did. 

Burn your games? Sorry but I still think there fun.

[nightmare975]

I don't give two shits about SE anymore, I wish others had the balls to do what I did.

BTW, I never got the chance to see the developer's room, I still couldn't believe what Tony did. 

Burn your games? Sorry but I still think there fun.

As do I, I just burned my broken ones.

Of course, I'm still never buying anymore of their trash.

And I was talking about placing my real name instead of my username.

[V_Translanka]

I thought about that (the name thing, not the game thing...why blame & punish the artists for the work of the moguls and legal teams?) for a second myself, but then I remembered I only beta tested, my real name wouldn't be hard to find in connection with my SN, and that this was just a credits roll, not a statement of war.

[Shee]

I kind of love this trepidation at discussing fan creations of a certain variety.  It's turning into some mafia talk.

"I really might of loved that part, where this event may or may not have happened, and it may or may not have been created in a certain way, by a certain someone, who may, or may not be, the certain someone that this alleged typing is or is not being directed towards..."

[lunar7]

The SPC data wouldn't have to be identical in size. It could be placed elsewhere in the ROM.

Good to know, although now I realize that all SPC files are the same size anyways (roughly 64kb) regardless of the actual length or contents of the music itself. The music also has to be limited to 8 tracks maximum. I found a good utility to convert XM/MOD/S3M tracker files to SPC but for some reason the SPC files come out totally silent. Unfortunately the developer hasn't gotten back to me either so right now I'm pretty stuck. I was curious if the CE devs had made any progress with plans to embed Claado Shou's music into the ROM, but I understand completely if this topic is off-limits.

[hiddensquire]

Right, so I just caught up with everyone else and within 2 days watched all 90 youtube videos (counting bonus & credits) concerning this CE project.  I'm sure there's been plenty of commentary already, so I'll keep mine short and sweet.

Big kudos to everyone who worked on the project and also props for keeping the whole thing under wraps during the entire developmental progress despite how awesome it was becoming.  I'm sure everyone involved was just bursting to talk about it.  Obviously a huge loss with the C&D, but thanks to those videos, at least everyone got to see you tell the story... and it was an excellent story, really.  And when I say story, I don't just mean Zeality's work.  The maps, battles, sprites, the people who simply contributed ideas, etc: they were all vital components of the story.  Even without a game to play, the entertainment value of the videos alone puts CE into the status of greatest CT fan work ever.  Considering how much amazing CT fan work is out there, I'm really saying something here, and I say it sincerely.

Oh, and special thanks to JP, C99, Zeality, & FW for inserting all the in-video commentary.  It added a lot.

[lunar7]

Good to know, although now I realize that all SPC files are the same size anyways (roughly 64kb) regardless of the actual length or contents of the music itself. The music also has to be limited to 8 tracks maximum. I found a good utility to convert XM/MOD/S3M tracker files to SPC but for some reason the SPC files come out totally silent. Unfortunately the developer hasn't gotten back to me either so right now I'm pretty stuck. I was curious if the CE devs had made any progress with plans to embed Claado Shou's music into the ROM, but I understand completely if this topic is off-limits.

alright, i'm halfway there, i know how to write my own spc files that actually play back.

now it's just a matter of figuring out how to insert the spc files back into the rom.

does anyone think it would be a bad idea for me to start a thread about this project?

thanks again