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« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2005, 06:45:32 pm »
The White Dragon also mentions the idea of the Entity when he talks to Serge after saving the party from the Chronopolis thing (or was it the Tower of Gheddon?).

And really, in that Belthasar quote, you could still take it to mean that the Entity/Planet only wants to get rid of the unwanted humans...I still don't believe it has to be that the Entity/Planet hates all humans...

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« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2005, 09:40:23 pm »
Belstasar said "us."  Remmber, he was talking to Serge, and us would have been him and Serge, who certainly arn't evil.  Then he says unwanted humans.

I don't think Human nature changed due to Lavos' death.

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« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2005, 08:04:25 am »
I think Belthasar is talking about the unwanted humans there as well though. Perhaps even, he is including himself within those since he's ****ing with shit so hardcore, right? Or w/e...

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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2005, 03:46:19 pm »
Maybe the unwanted humans is in reference to the timeline in the state that it is in before the events of Cross. Basically no human had helped out the entity at all. What the group did was basically go from having the planet destroyed to having all of space time destroyed. But after Cross finishes everything becomes gravy. Well until the fourth game comes out and Lavos pulls some crazier stuff than what it did in Cross and Trigger combined.

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« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2005, 03:39:53 am »
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Why the Trigger had to be used on the top of Death Peak is a good question. It obviously has something to do with Lavos, considering it resides on the top of Death Peak. Nothing is really mentioned in the game as to why Death Peak is the key. I assume it involves Lavos's energy and the fact that it is reproducing on the mountain. A great amount of energy would be used to make new Lavos's. Maybe the Chrono Trigger uses that energy to create a time freeze at the last moment of the deceased life, using the clone as a reference to the person's genetic makeup.


Hum this have been asked a while ago in thsi treath but I'll tell my opinion, death peak is where Lavos "exploded" and reproduce while destroying all the humans domes, so this would be where Lavos would finally exit his pocket dimesion. The same palce where Crono was killed and since the pocket dimension is supposely perpendicular to the timeline it could be accessed to anytime...

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Do the games ever mention the entity besides that one scene, and in that one scene do they mention that the entity would be at rest when Lavos is destroyed?

The entity is mention to the forest aprt and at the very end (doN,t know which ending) but it's never told it was at rest only that it didn't need of the time portals so it would surely closed them all (which would make epoch useless, since he used those to time-travel?)

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Belstasar said "us."  Remmber, he was talking to Serge, and us would have been him and Serge, who certainly arn't evil.  Then he says unwanted humans.

I think us would mean the Human race, but since considering the planet-entity let's say 90% or + are using the planet without giving it back nothing, so the "us" was maybe a huge generalization. Like when a teacher tell the "moyenne" (take all the notes of a class, add them together and divide them by the number of notes, sorry i'm french and word slip sometimes) so the teacher tells that the "moyenne" is bad for the class and they should do better, not all student have a bad note but the teacher won't name each bad student.

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« Reply #50 on: June 12, 2005, 02:15:10 pm »
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Hum this have been asked a while ago in thsi treath but I'll tell my opinion, death peak is where Lavos "exploded" and reproduce while destroying all the humans domes, so this would be where Lavos would finally exit his pocket dimesion. The same palce where Crono was killed and since the pocket dimension is supposely perpendicular to the timeline it could be accessed to anytime...

 
Hubba Wubba? Crono was killed in the Ocean Palace in 12K. The egg sent the group back to that exact moment, he was never killed in 2300.

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The entity is mention to the forest aprt and at the very end (doN,t know which ending) but it's never told it was at rest only that it didn't need of the time portals so it would surely closed them all (which would make epoch useless, since he used those to time-travel?)


That is the Fiona Sidequest and at the end of either of the Millenial Fair endings.  And Lucca did say that it was at rest:

Quote from: Lucca
Yeah. I get the feeling that the «Entity» is finally at rest.


But we all know it isn't, not until after Cross... Maybe.

I have no idea whats going on in the quotations, so I can't respond.

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« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2005, 02:51:32 pm »
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Hubba Wubba? Crono was killed in the Ocean Palace in 12K. The egg sent the group back to that exact moment, he was never killed in 2300.


I think he is saying that the location of Death Peak is the same location where the Ocean Palace was, just in the future.

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« Reply #52 on: June 12, 2005, 03:20:08 pm »
What I meant is that when Lavos exited his Pocket dimension he msut have end out under the groudn where Tyrano Lair was. then he dig to the surface and destroyed all domes etc... making Lavos spawn and thus creating a crater that would finally finish has a mountain "Death Peak" then Death Peak would be the closest link to Lavos's Pocket Dimension

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« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2005, 01:32:28 am »
I am having a hard time understanding what you are trying to say, can you try and make your grammar better?

If I understand what you are saying, you think Lavos came up where the Tyrano Lair surfaced in 600. A simple check shows that Tyrano Lair surfaced southeast of the Black Omen, which basically is a cursor to where Death Peak is in any timeline.

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« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2005, 07:58:33 am »
(sorry for my grammar)

Lavos crash down, destroy Tyrano Lair and make his pocket dimension some time after
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Tyrano Lair remains get rounned up and look like a mountain
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Lavos exit his pocket dimension and thus ends where he crushed that is now Death Peak.

So Death Peak would be the closest lick to Lavos Pocket dimension

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« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2005, 12:49:07 pm »
It is common belief that Lavos exits the pocket Dimension in 1999 and never returns to it, for it needs to take care of is spawn.

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« Reply #56 on: June 13, 2005, 01:38:05 pm »
Yes but it's the closest link to the pocket dimension, where Crono died

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Lavos taking care of his spawn? in 2300 AD he's not here, I always though he died after his attack on the domes...

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« Reply #57 on: June 13, 2005, 02:29:31 pm »
Well, what makes you think Death Peak isn't Lavos' dead shell?

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« Reply #58 on: June 13, 2005, 04:27:26 pm »
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Yes but it's the closest link to the pocket dimension, where Crono died

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Lavos taking care of his spawn? in 2300 AD he's not here, I always though he died after his attack on the domes...


Quote from: Belthasar
In 1999, Lavos claims this area, and
   reigns from high atop Death Peak.

   Lavos continues to replicate......
   like a giant parasite, he is consuming
   our world.

   Forced to live here, I continued to
   conduct research on Lavos.
   But I am growing old.


Nope, still alive and kicking. You just don't see it when you climb Death Peak.  I always thought that they never went to the summit of Death Peak, but only to where the tree was, because that was where they could use Lavos's power to activate the egg without being near Lavos.

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