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« Reply #45 on: July 14, 2005, 01:27:03 am »
Akhilleus-Achilles, i guess

Era- Hera
Aides- Hades
Athene-Athena
Thanatos... well, obvious :D
Magos-Magus, i think
Khrono- Kronos
Cronos-Kronos
Thea ulaucopis (ilaucopis) Athene-??? No idea: Thea is goddess, but this ulaucopis thing is obscure to my knowlegde about greek :D
Foibos Apollos- Febus Apollos

Iadeth
Merideth
Arendain Paraigaltonri
Arithine
Annoth Tin


Thanks to my degree on physics :D

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« Reply #46 on: July 14, 2005, 01:36:03 am »
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Akhilleus-Achilles, i guess

Era- Hera
Aides- Hades
Athene-Athena
Thanatos... well, obvious :D
Magos-Magus, i think
Khrono- Kronos
Cronos-Kronos
Thea ulaucopis (ilaucopis) Athene-??? No idea: Thea is goddess, but this ulaucopis thing is obscure to my knowlegde about greek :D
Foibos Apollos- Febus Apollos

Iadeth
Merideth
Arendain Paraigaltonri
Arithine
Annoth Tin


Thanks to my degree on physics :D


Very good, indeed. The Khronos is more commonly spelled chronos, thus being time rather than the name of the Titan. The reason you couldn't read that name of Athene's is because of the bad Greek font: that was a gamma, not an upsilon. Thus it was glaukopis, ie. grey-eyed. Thus 'grey-eyed goddess Athene', a common way of speaking of her in the Iliad. I'm not sure about the last one, as I always write it Phoibos Apollon, but it may well be that Phoibos comes to us as Phoebus.

Oh, and you needn't have translated the last set, you know. They are generally right, though, the only differences being matters of convention I use when writing them in English. The language I invented in which those are written actually demands somewhat of a pause if a vowel follows an I at the beginning of a word (ie. it's two vowels pronounced seperately and not a diphthong), and to distinguish it I usually render it Jadeth. Also, to differentiate the long and short i sound, i is always long, and y is short. Thus it's Arythinė (with the ė being shaky at the moment, but the intent being a long e like the eta in Greek.)

But very good, and most impressive! Hera especially isn't a very obvious one, and neither is Hades.

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« Reply #47 on: July 14, 2005, 02:13:12 am »
Well, the way i spelled Kronos, was intended to pronounciation. There was this add on tv about greek yoghourt, and an old greek lady was saying that they had been doing that yoghourt for "years and years": khronia ke khronia. a very hard aspiration sound. It was funny, and nowadays it is still used in Spain as a joke.  :lol: I don't know if in classical greek it was pronounced that way, though ^_^

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« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2005, 03:03:05 am »
I think so. I've seen Achilleus spelled Akhilleus before and, though I like the translation of the Iliad with Achilleus better, Akhilleus strikes me as being nearer truth. From what I know, kh, th, and ph are all similar in that regard, being aspirated sounds rather than the softer ones we know (for the last two.) Similarially the r's are trilled, and so forth.

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« Reply #49 on: July 14, 2005, 03:19:00 am »
Just, as a piece of random trivia :D (since it looks like you are interested in languages ^_-): while in Spanish we have that very strong aspirated sound, it came from the evolution of the latin "j". That's actually the letter we use to represent that sound. Instead, all the aspirated sounds that came from latin and greek, in spanish became non-aspirated, they became "k" sound, as it happened in English.

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« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2005, 01:45:09 am »
Okay, here is how I pronounce these names:

Crono
Lucca
Marle
Ayla
Schala
Magus
Janus
Melchior
Belthesar
Gaspar
Kajar
Azala
Porre
Serge
Lavos
Masamune


(With these links, as with Legend’s, do not click the bottom download, as that will cancel it.)

Firstly, the way I usually do in quick conversation, with accursed Anglisization:

http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=03UOX2OYPEUBM1JXAC7LJQJDAN

Secondly, my preferred way of pronouncing them, when I put more effort into it. As a side-note, I'm near dead-certain that Magus and Janus are correct for Latin here, and as for the Three Guru's, I was following Greek pronounciation on these which, although it is different than ancient Median or Persian, is likely near enough, and is certainly closer than English. Oh, and as for Kajar... that's just a quirk of mine, and my dislike of the 'j' sound:

http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0PLWCVJACYAWH0OCGTJ7ABIKQ6

You'll need Real Player to listen to these, I think.

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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2005, 01:57:11 am »
AhAh great job Daniel, the sound is quite low though.

I wonder does a silent "e" exist in english, because I always said Masamune

Masa + moon

and I was just wondering because I hear the "e" and we don,t pronoune the "e" in french when a word ends by it

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« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2005, 03:11:25 am »
I am pretty sure in English is the same case, but well, Masamune is a japanese surname :D

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« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2005, 09:27:08 am »
I'll be reading what Dan read...

http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0BNQNC2I2KRF827MSST4KKKO2T

Sorry if I sound a bit robotic, I'm not in the best of moods right now.

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« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2005, 11:53:06 am »
>_< I made a file where the names are said like I say them in french and how a computer generated voice says them, but when I save the mixdown it was silence with a single sound and I don't fell working on it again

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« Reply #55 on: July 20, 2005, 02:17:30 pm »
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AhAh great job Daniel, the sound is quite low though.

I wonder does a silent "e" exist in english, because I always said Masamune

Masa + moon

and I was just wondering because I hear the "e" and we don,t pronoune the "e" in french when a word ends by it


The true japanese pronunciation has the e in there.

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« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2005, 01:26:27 pm »
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AhAh great job Daniel, the sound is quite low though.

I wonder does a silent "e" exist in english, because I always said Masamune

Masa + moon

and I was just wondering because I hear the "e" and we don,t pronoune the "e" in french when a word ends by it


The true japanese pronunciation has the e in there.


Indeed, for which I began saying it as I do. I once spoke it 'Masa-moon', taking the e to be silent as so often is in English, but on seeing the movie Highlander, began to wonder if this was not wrong. Asking on a forum, I found that Masa-moon-ay was in actuality the correct one, for which I now pronounce it so, and often - or at least in my writing - spell it Masamunė to emphasize a non-silent e.

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« Reply #57 on: July 22, 2005, 10:32:18 pm »
For the pronunciation of Masamune, it is of Japanese origin, so none of the letters are wasted.  To be honest, I have no idea where the name itself came from,  outside of the above sentence, as that isn't what the man's name was.  Don't ask me what his original name was, I don't know.  He apparently was called that during his time, so it must have been some sort of nickname.  Anyways, Masamune should sound like this:

MAH-SAH-MOO-NAY

That name is truly irrelevant in the chrono universe,  though.  It's existence in all three games is, as far as I can tell, a work of translation.

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« Reply #58 on: July 22, 2005, 11:56:36 pm »
Masamune is an almost legendary (but real) sword crafter in Japan. His swords were regarded as holy swords, our of extreme perfection. His main competitor was Murasame, another extremly skilled crafter, but whose swords were considered bloodthirsty, almost demonic. The legend says that, they stablished a contest to see who created the sharpest sword. To test them, the layed them on a shallow of a river, with the blad upwards. Murasame's was so sharp that it would cut the leaves floating cleanly in half. But Masamune's was so sharp (and so holy) that no leaf would even touch it: all would pass by its sides.

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« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2011, 02:17:58 am »
Reviving an old thread....  I recently met someone who pronounce the name Serge as "Ser-shee", and it  confused me at first because I always pronunced it as "Ser-sh". The pronunciation "Ser-shee" sounds like an appreciative form to me, almost like Poshul's "Sergeipoo"  :P The brother of a friend pronounces "Guile" almost as "Wee-lee", when I was a child I pronounced it "Gee-leh" (That's the way I called the guy from street fighter), now I pronounce it as "Gi-l"

Right now I'm reading (hearing?) the spanish version of the audiobooks of Earth's Children, and I noticed the name Ayla is pronounced "I-la" in this version, which is more close to how you would read it in spanish. I used to pronouce the name like this the very first time I played CT, but then I discovered that in the japanese version is spelled エイラ,  so I forced myself to pronouce it "A-la".

I used to pronounce Trigger as "Tray-ger", until I heard the word in an american movie pronounced "Tree-ger".

On a side note, I also discovered that the name "Serge" is an equivalent to the spanish name "Sergio", and that dissapointed me to no end, lol  :P I have met plenty of Sergios in my life, that kind of ruined the uniqueness of the name to me. I didn't know it was a common name, I thought it was a rarer name like "Crono". I explained this to my brother, and he insists that the real reason of my dissapointment is because the name "Sergio" is not foreign enough for me  :P
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