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« on: June 05, 2005, 09:19:54 pm »
From GF:

I'm making this thread for assistance regarding the script. I'm going to be tackling the major portions so I don't always have time to make a 20 minute playthrough of an area to see who speaks a line or where it is entailed. Right now, though, I just need anyone who wants to help to look through the mostly complete appendices for anything out of the ordinary. Look for stuff you've never seen before; a lot of stuff is already on here. For instance, there's a "Glenn2" description, but I haven't found any differences. I guess it's just for when Glenn gets Double Einlanzers.

http://cc.herograw.com/Black/Publications/crossscript.txt

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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2005, 03:11:01 am »
I hereby open analysis with:

A Komodo dragon scale?
It's pathetic how boys are
chasing around girls
with that thing...
Instead, why not boil Chief
Radius's toe cheese and
drink it? It'll grow some
hair on your chest!

I've been plodding in Arni for an eternity, now. Cross has over 200,000 words in its script. Almost 2 megs.

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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2005, 11:12:05 pm »
I've just found our first set of lost lines. It's a secret scene with Poshul and Mojo at Cape Howl. Apparently having Mojo at that point would have interfered with party member # if you accepted Kid, so he was made unable to join until after the Cape Howl thing. Here's what is said:

Poshul:
It wath terribre...
They should be kind
to animalth...

Mojo:
They must be-om out of
their minds to kick-om
me off a cliff!
I thought-om I was
gooing to die-om!

Poshul:
PO-SHU!?
Me didn't know you could die...
What a thurprithe...!

[Mojo]
...I hate-om yoou.

And here are screenshots:

http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/0/07/Mojoscene1.png
http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/a/a7/Mojoscene2.png

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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2005, 11:22:30 pm »
Where is the script dump?

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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2005, 12:26:10 am »
I've got it at the moment. I'm editing it.

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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2005, 12:38:18 pm »
You should post the text dump on the compendium, Zeality, so that people can look at it.

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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2005, 04:36:30 pm »

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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2005, 08:37:09 pm »
Holy crap, Mojo just said what we were all thinking!

But what's "thurprithe" supposed to mean?

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2005, 10:44:09 pm »
Replace "th" with "s".  Surprise!

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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2005, 01:47:56 am »
I have a question. I was looking over this, and found this set of lines, with one unique one for each person. Now, for some odd reason, I cannot remember a single one of those, save for Starky's (that, oddly, seems familiar, though I don't know why it should: I almost never used him.) Anyway, I was wondering where the heck this set is from. It's concerning, some even speaking to, the Flame, but when I checked both Chronopolis and the Terra Tower summit in the game, nothing seemed to come up. Any ideas where this is from, then? Am I just stupid and forgetful?

(Note: It is room 434 on the file entitled Script_CD2; the rest of the 'room' seems to be the dialogue atop Terra Tower, though this last set suddenly from 00047 - Belthesar telling the group to free Schala - to 000100, which has Kid questioning something Lavos/the Flame about the fall of an ancient magical kingdom. It seems the Flame tempts and/or speaks to each member in their mind, and I suppose that it tells Kid that she is Schala.)

Here is an excerpt; the entirety will stetch this thread way too long.

00047 (L:00168.H:00003)
+---------------------
|Belthasar:
|The world is
|in your hands...\NE\
|Go!
|Release the life
|that is imprisoned...\Ptr\
|
00100 (L:00240.H:00004)
+------------------------------
|\Kid\:
|An ancient magical kingdom...?
|That you destroyed
|ten thousand years ago...?\NE\
|What are ya talkin' about?\Ptr\
|
00101 (L:00168.H:00003)
+---------------------
|\Kid\:
|Stop it...\Delai\\020\
|I don't know nothin'!\Ptr\
|
00102 (L:00120.H:00004)
+--------------
|I'm...\Delai\\020\
|I'm \Kid\!!\Delai\\020\
|I'm myself and
|nobody else!!\Ptr\
|
00103 (L:00152.H:00004)
+-------------------
|\Guile\:
|Is this what I have
|been searching for
|all this time...\NE\
|No...
|Stop it!\Delai\\040\
|I am no such thing.\NE\
|What good is it...\Delai\\030\
|to possess such
|dark power...?\Ptr\
|
00104 (L:00216.H:00004)
+---------------------------
|\Norris\:
|If I take this with me back
|to Porre, there will be
|even more bloodshed.\NE\
|And yet, it will give us
|enough power to withstand
|the other major countries.\NE\
|Is that all I have really
|desired this whole time...?\Ptr\
|
00105 (L:00176.H:00004)
+----------------------
|\Nikki\:
|Marvelous...
|It's a truly marvelous
|tone...\NE\
|It brings out light
|and darkness within
|me clearly!\Ptr\
|
00106 (L:00184.H:00004)
+-----------------------
|\Viper\:
|Hmm...\Delai\\020\
|Good Lord!\NE\
|Is there nothing more
|to life than destroying
|and defeating one
|another after all...?\Ptr\
|
00107 (L:00248.H:00004)
+------------------------------
|\Viper\:
|And only then shall living
|beings advance forward,
|to a higher level?\NE\
|The \'"\survival of the fittest?\"'\
|Is that the true meaning of
|evolution?\Ptr\
|
00108 (L:00200.H:00004)
+-------------------------
|\Riddel\:
|What an awfully sad
|light...\NE\
|As long as we are alive,
|it is impossible to avoid
|partings.\NE\
|If that is so, then
|perhaps it would be
|better if one did not
|meet others at all...\NE\
|Excuse me?
|No! It cannot be...\NE\
|Is it you...?\Delai\\040\
|It is you!
|Oh, I am so relieved.\NE\
|You were always by my
|side, and yet I never
|noticed...\Ptr\
|
00109 (L:00176.H:00004)
+----------------------
|\Karsh\:
|For crying out loud...
|Stop it!
|I know that already!\NE\
|Don't read my mind
|any further than that!\Ptr\
|
00110 (L:00192.H:00003)
+------------------------
|\Zoah\:
|HMPH!\NE\
|WHAT MEANING IS THERE TO
|A LIFE OF STRIVING AFTER
|WEALTH AND POWER...?\NE\
|IT IS NO USE TO YOU ONCE
|YOU DIE!\NE\
|AS FOR ME, I CHOOSE TO
|LIVE IN BATTLE AND ONE
|DAY TO DIE IN BATTLE.\Ptr\
|
00111 (L:00212.H:00004)
+--------------------------
|\Marcy\:
|What?\Delai\\020\
|Oh, I already knew that...\NE\
|I know that half of the
|blood within me is that
|of a demi-human...\NE\
|And I know that it'll be
|easier for me if I can
|accept that fact...\NE\
|What are you, my school
|counselor or something?
|Like, tell me something
|I don't know...\Ptr\
|


Oh, and Starky's that struck me as familiar:

00129 (L:00224.H:00003)
+----------------------------
|\Starky\:
|Woowzer!
|Out of this world...!\NE\
|The liight of the big baang!\NE\
|All starts from heere and
|all ends heere...\NE\
|What liies beeyond that...?\Ptr\
|

By the way... what does this comment mean for the Flame? For if it is simply a piece of Lavos' shell, that means that Lavos is intrinsically connected to the origin of the universe, making him more than simply a planet-parasite. Or else the Frozen Flame is something even beyond Lavos. Whatever it is, Starky's comments make clear that its power lies in the very origin of the universe. I think I may start a topic on this.

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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2005, 02:14:05 am »
Those are each reactions by characters to the Frozen Flame, and reveal much about its nature. They principally reveal that Lavos, or the Flame itself, harbors ill will for humanity (thus likely it is Lavos/TD) and is attempting to impose negative thoughts on those gazing into the Flame. Each person seems to refute what is presented in his or her mind in this situation.

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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2005, 03:08:29 am »
But at which point? I brought along Guile and Norris to the confrontation atop Terra Tower, and neither said their space.

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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2005, 04:44:53 pm »
Wow! This suddenly became very interesting!  :wink:

When do the characters make these statements?

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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2005, 06:16:10 pm »
I believe they have to be leading the party.

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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2005, 09:40:13 pm »
Yeah, I thought this was well-known...I just never bothered to look for all of them (outside of GameFAQs once when lookng for Marcy lines...). One of the few times where the CC  party gets development w/o having to do completely random nonsense that no one w/o a time machine's amount of time would ever find...