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Daniel Krispin

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« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2005, 01:21:13 pm »
I'm writing this from work during a break, so I don't exactly have access to a PS2 here to test any of this, so I must perforce go from memory. But I'll see what I can recall...

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1.

"This is the place"

Found in Earth Dragon Isle


No recollection for me on this line.

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2.

I can't hear the
dragon's cry anymore.
Another one...gone...

I heard the Black
Dragon's cry.
Is it really awake?


I would assume this occurs when you go to fight the Black Dragon. If you defeat it, and talk to the villagers, or run away and talk. But that's just a guess.

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3.

Witch Doctor:
......
Hmmm, interesting.
So you say your
true self is human?
I can't do anything
about your curse.
Away with you, human.


I really don't know. Probably Marbule, if you come as Lynx, but beyond that, I'm not sure.

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4.

Black Dragon:
......

00005 (L:00272.H:00001)
+----------------------------------
The Black Dragon remains asleep...

00006 (L:00176.H:00002)
+-------------------
Membre000 received the
004Black Relic000.


I've never actually done that before, but I think if you go to Marbule and the Black Dragon with Harle without waking the thing up (which world is that Dragon in again? If it's the Home, then I suppose it could be done at any point before entereing the dead sea.) Anyway, it seems that this is the trigger if you do/do not take Harle with you. If you take her, then you get the Relic without ever fighting the Dragon. If you don't have her, then the Dragon simply remains asleep, waiting for the Song of Marbule.

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5.

Hi, just passin' through?
You should rest up a bit.

00038 (L:00188.H:00002)
+-----------------------
If you're with a human,
GET OUT!!!


I'm just guessing, but I think that is probably the inn in Marbule, and these are the triggers whether or not you have a human in your party (there seem to be a few triggers like that: come with an all Demi-Human party, and you get that nice ReviveAll)

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6.

The Great Explorer Toma:
So, did you see Captain
Fargo on the Zelbess?
Was he up to his old tricks
again? He never quits.
Well, it's gettin' late and
I don't want to keep you.
So let's hit the sack, shall we?

00027 (L:00168.H:00003)
+---------------------
Ash:
I have a baaaaaad
feeling about this...


I'm totally lost on this.

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7.

Shoo!
Get outta here!

(I think this was intended for when you're a cat, but I couldn't get any tourists to trigger it.)


I think this might perhaps be in the kitchen, come to think of it.

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8.

Hey! You're my ultimate
rival, Miki!
Listen, YOU!
You stay away from
my Nikki, or you'll
be sorry!

(I know who should say this, but isn't the deck of the Zelbess cleared out as soon as the concert's over?)


Again, this one I cannot recall at all.

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9.

Nikki:
That was a rockin' jam session!
It'd be great if we could
tour together some time!

00011 (L:00080.H:00002)
+--------
Nikki:
Yeah...!

00012 (L:00176.H:00003)
+----------------------
Nikki:
......!?
Another me...?
Hey, I'd love to jam
with you some time...!
How 'bout it!?

00013 (L:00220.H:00004)
+---------------------------
Nikki:
Sure, that'd be great...!
You know our mother's song,
right? Teach it to me?

00014 (L:00112.H:00002)
+--------------
Nikki:
Sure thing...!

00015 (L:00200.H:00003)
+-------------------------
Nikki:
What...
beautiful music...!!!
It sends chills down
my spine just playing it!

00016 (L:00168.H:00002)
+---------------------
Nikki:
I knew you'd like it!

00017 (L:00272.H:00003)
+-------------------------------
Nikki learned
003Item000
from a jam session with Nikki!

00032 (L:00168.H:00004)
+---------------------
Kid:
......?
Where the bloody hell
is Nikki?
I wanted to ask him
somethin'...

00033 (L:00136.H:00004)
+-----------------
Kid:
I'm gonna go look
for him...
Wait here.

(I need the specifics of when this occurs. The Kid dialogue is interesting...)


Interesting, but I don't know it. I never used Nikki: only my one little sister used him, but she never got so far. I only ever used Guile and Pierre, and my other little sister also used Guile.

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9.

Do the gamblers even come back after you lose Norris's boat? I kept going back to the casino but they weren't there, and neither were they there as cats. They have a whole bunch of lines after you supposedly defeat him.


Never tested this.

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10.

When is the absolute last point you can do the SS Zelbess concert?


I cannot quite remember. Probably before you fight the Black Dragon, I should think. As long as it still lives, it should be alright to do this - the 'nightmares' are his dreams, after all. But I could well be wrong.

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11.

So, what'd you think?

00001 (L:00.H:00001)
+------------
Be my guest.

00002 (L:00.H:00003)
+------------------------
Now that the captain's
gone, what are we
supposed to do?
Maybe we should lend our
hands to the restoration
of Marbule...?

00003 (L:00248.H:00003)
+-------------------------------
Damn demi-humans...!
They got away, right
under our noses!
We have to do somethin'
before the captain finds out...


Again, it does nothing for my memory.

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11.

It's rusted and won't open...


No clue.

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12.

Your body seems to be
brimming with energy!

(this is somewhere in Fort Dragonia, I think...)


I concur with your hypothesis, but can offer no further clues. Unless... wait, there's a red glyph or something like that in the right turn when you are in the first Fort Dragonia in the away world. In the hall that has the red crystal. Wait... no, a red Record of Fate. I think that this is what gives that line. I can't check it out now, as I said, but I'm quite certain on this.

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13.

The Kid question with Nikki above -- I just found it, and it rules. But where does it take place? It's why he named his band Magical Dreamers.


No clue. Never seen that before.

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14.

Not enough power...

The ice is in the way...

(There are a ton of these!)


I'd assume that this is in the Burning Orphanage, but can offer no further insight.

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15.

This was a while back, but I
did a bad thing to another bunch
like you, who just happened to
be visiting the island at the time.

00012 (L:00284.H:00003)
+-----------------------------------
Even though I did it to save my
own sanity, it was a major mistake.
I feel really bad about it...

00013 (L:00216.H:00003)
+---------------------------
I just want to apologize.
...I wonder if they'll ever
come back here again?

(When do these show)


I have absolutely no clue who is even talking here.

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16.

Fargo:
Listen up.
I've explained yer
situation to me men.
Don't worry. They're all
very understandin'.
Oh, and the ones who ran
off are back onboard.
Pay them a visit when
you get a chance.

00002 (L:00184.H:00003)
+-----------------------
Fargo:
Ahoy, mateys!
Make yerselves at home.

00003 (L:00288.H:00003)
+------------------------------------
Fargo:
I've got a bad feelin' 'bout this...
Let's just get it over with.


Nothing I can say here.

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17.

Karsh:
Man... I feel relieved...
Actually... No...!
Forget it!


Likewise, nothing.

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18.

Riddel Groupie:
Damn!
I-I-I can't get close to her.


And... again, nothing.

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19.

 Terra Tower
- Final Form -

(Does this...ever appear on the World Map?)


I'm not 100% sure (something like 80%), but I think it does.

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20.

Member:
   Those who don't learn
   the first time are bound to
   repeat the same mistake!

Member:
   We should get
   going before this
   thing wakes up.

(With Pentapus. I couldn't get them to activate though)


Hmmm... I don't know.

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« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2005, 12:11:41 am »
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I've never actually done that before, but I think if you go to Marbule and the Black Dragon with Harle without waking the thing up (which world is that Dragon in again? If it's the Home, then I suppose it could be done at any point before entereing the dead sea.) Anyway, it seems that this is the trigger if you do/do not take Harle with you. If you take her, then you get the Relic without ever fighting the Dragon. If you don't have her, then the Dragon simply remains asleep, waiting for the Song of Marbule.


I have done this and its very interesting when you go the Zelbess with  Nikki,Irene and talk with Fargo and the malrbule's Elder

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« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2005, 12:22:10 am »
Okay, so if you don't set up the stuff before the Dead Sea, you can't do it. This helps tremendously.

Can anyone find this:

 [Lucca]
   Either way, nothing changes
   who you have become!
   You're still my precious
   little sister, Kid!

It should appear on Opassa Beach, but I just absolutely cannot get it to work. I tried talking to Lucca and even coming back.

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« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2005, 03:15:55 am »
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7.

Shoo!
Get outta here!


the inn owner on ss Zebless says that to his cat when it tries to go up the stairs to the room under the casino

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14.

Not enough power...

The ice is in the way...

(There are a ton of these!)


"not enough power..." is said if you try to freeze the lava using the ice gun on the way to fort dragonia

"the ice is in the way..." is said when you try to open the chest in the lava there if you've used the ice breath to freeze the lava already.

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« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2005, 03:23:26 am »
Excellent; this will shrink the script well.

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« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2005, 03:36:41 am »
I've found alternates of the captions to the orphanage drawings. They're mostly the same except for this:

Riki was here!

Is there any wall scribbling in the orphanage where that's written?

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« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2005, 03:55:17 am »
I also need someone to start a new game and go to Arni (Another). Get the Komodo Scale key item from the sawfish guy before. Try to offer it to Una. I can't get her to speak, and if this proves true, then her lines regarding it are Lost Lines.

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« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2005, 05:56:00 am »
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I've found alternates of the captions to the orphanage drawings. They're mostly the same except for this:

Riki was here!

Is there any wall scribbling in the orphanage where that's written?

I don't know who's Riki, but... does this mean there's really no drawing of Frog or Glenn? That's strange.

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« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2005, 12:32:23 pm »
Quote
So tell me now
Even if it is a lie
That angels unseen
Watch over the works of men.


I seem to remember Kid saying these lines in the games, vividly, almost. But maybe it's just a false memory induced by my recent look through the script. I'm going to check a script I found on Gamefaqs, see if it may be found in there. Perhaps that would shed some light on this.

Quote
Kid:
If the world's gonna
be destroyed, then let
it be destroyed!
If history is gonna be
changed, then let it
bloody well be changed!
I'll show you what
Radical Dreamers
really dream about!


Here's something I find interesting.

Magus says something painfully similar in Chrono Trigger:

Magus:
If history is to change, let it change!
If the world is to be destroyed, so be it!
If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!!

Of course, that's without the whole "Radical Dreamers" part.

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« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2005, 04:56:22 pm »
This never appears:

    Terra Tower
   - Final Form -

Makes me remember the statement that the big face in Terra Tower was going to be a playable character. Maybe you could go back and get him once Terra Tower reverted back into Dinopolis?

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« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2005, 03:23:44 am »
I will be gone until the fifth of July. While I'm away, I'm going to leave everyone the remnants of the Chrono Cross script. I've taken about 95% out and put it in the master script, which will be released, but this last 5% is proving annoying. Try to mull it over, and if you remember seeing anything in-game, post in http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=829&start=45 this thread. I will be gone for two weeks, so try to assist! Thanks.

http://cc.herograw.com/Black/Publications/crossscriptremainders.txt

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« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2005, 10:37:32 pm »
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20.

Member:
   We should get
   going before this
   thing wakes up.

(With Pentapus. I couldn't get them to activate though)


When the group is in the Hyrda marshes on the way to Gaia's Navel. If you walk over the the open area with the cracks in it and fall in you land on that big plant. That is when it is said.

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« Reply #57 on: June 29, 2005, 08:54:44 am »
I'm pretty sure that part with Marge speaking: "oh my, a demi-human?" or whatever it is, is what she says when you come back after the swamp or whatever after Serge is transformed.

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« Reply #58 on: August 03, 2005, 07:11:33 pm »
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This never appears:

    Terra Tower
   - Final Form -

Makes me remember the statement that the big face in Terra Tower was going to be a playable character. Maybe you could go back and get him once Terra Tower reverted back into Dinopolis?


I'm almost positive that heading back to the Tower after it reverts it says that, no way of entering it, though.