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DarkGizmo

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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2005, 07:00:55 pm »
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Uh... The King says they're his and Marle's kinsmen. Since they're not her cousins, uncles, or some such thing, they have to be her descendants and ancestors.


sorry, I'm french and I didn't know what that word means.

It's really no fun that they made such a BIG plot hole though

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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2005, 07:28:24 pm »
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Uh... The King says they're his and Marle's kinsmen. Since they're not her cousins, uncles, or some such thing, they have to be her descendants and ancestors.


sorry, I'm french and I didn't know what that word means.

It's really no fun that they made such a BIG plot hole though


Why is it a plot hole? Can no one take my explination?

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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2005, 01:11:49 pm »
Isn't it possible that Doan may not be Marle's decendant? I mean, sure he may of been related to her, but I mean maybe with Marle out of the picture the king either A. Had another child to pass on the throne to [ Not Likely ] or B. That some relative of his assumed the throne when he passed on? Making Doan still related to Marle, just not decended from her persay.

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2005, 01:22:37 pm »
It calls him a decendant, not simply a relative.

And I don't buy that Lucca rounded them up pre-Lavos fight because we have constant tabs on her.

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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2005, 01:54:35 pm »
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Marle: Lucca!
   You brought them here, didn't you?

KING GUARDIA: Our kinsmen told me all
   about your incredible mission.

Marle: Kinsmen?!
   You mean these're MY ancestors...and
   descendants?

KING: Here I was fussing about my
   kingdom, and my daughter, and you
   were saving past, present and
   future!

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it doesn't tell you that they are, she's just asking, no?


It calls them her kinsmen, she calls them her decendants. Atleast according to the qoute we have here.. Granted I wouldn't blame Marle for thinking that, but still I'd say its likely that they are related to her, just not decended from her. More like decended from someone else in her family line.

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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2005, 06:03:51 pm »
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You mean these're MY ancestors...and
descendants?


Its generally not a good idea to go around and randomly discard what characters that have no reason (and are not obviously) to lie.  Then, we have to call every other statement into question, leaving us with nothing.[/quote]

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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2005, 06:23:27 pm »
And if you notice, the king doesn't tell her that shes right. Probably doesn't even know himself. Shes just going on the assumption that they would be her decendants since shes next in line. However if she were removed from the timeline when time traveling then they wouldn't have been decended from her.

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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2005, 07:16:34 pm »
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And if you notice, the king doesn't tell her that shes right. Probably doesn't even know himself. Shes just going on the assumption that they would be her decendants since shes next in line. However if she were removed from the timeline when time traveling then they wouldn't have been decended from her.


That is a strech, you might as well assume that anything said that isn't confirmed by another person isn't true.

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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2005, 09:25:28 pm »
Well, the gates didn't dissapear instantaneously after Lavos was defeated, so perhaps the timelines didn't either.