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Which language do you speak?

English
25 (64.1%)
French
4 (10.3%)
Spanish
0 (0%)
Japanese
1 (2.6%)
Klingon
0 (0%)
Other
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Voting closed: June 16, 2005, 07:59:54 pm

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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2005, 04:33:47 pm »
Portuguese is easy, but its also complex.  As long as you know all six pronouns and verbs that go with them, you shouldnt have a trouble speaking.  I'll give you a little lesson.

I.................................................... Eu
You (Informal)................................ Tu
You, He, She..................................  Voce, Ele, Ela
We, Us..........................................  Nos (with accent)
You (Plural)...................................  Vos (also with accent)
They, They (male), They (female)...  Voces, Eles, Elas

Let me just say sorry, i have no character map, so i can't generate accents which sucks because i can't speak without them.

Let's do the Verb "IR" which means to go.

Eu (Vou) - I Go...It'll come naturally when you learn it
Tu (Vais) - You Go... Tu is considered informal so its distinguished with 's'
Voce (Vai) - Voce, Ele, and Ela use this, its semi-formal and acceptable by all.
Nos (Vamos) Anything that is "We or Us" always has MOS, at the end of it.
Vos (Ides)  Kinda going extinct no one really uses Ides anymore.
Voces (Vao) with an accent, it sounds MUCH different

Go here www.verbix.com

Sorry to confuse you.

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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2005, 06:14:18 pm »
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Portuguese is easy, but its also complex.  As long as you know all six pronouns and verbs that go with them, you shouldnt have a trouble speaking.  I'll give you a little lesson.

I.................................................... Eu
You (Informal)................................ Tu
You, He, She..................................  Voce, Ele, Ela
We, Us..........................................  Nos (with accent)
You (Plural)...................................  Vos (also with accent)
They, They (male), They (female)...  Voces, Eles, Elas

Let me just say sorry, i have no character map, so i can't generate accents which sucks because i can't speak without them.

Let's do the Verb "IR" which means to go.

Eu (Vou) - I Go...It'll come naturally when you learn it
Tu (Vais) - You Go... Tu is considered informal so its distinguished with 's'
Voce (Vai) - Voce, Ele, and Ela use this, its semi-formal and acceptable by all.
Nos (Vamos) Anything that is "We or Us" always has MOS, at the end of it.
Vos (Ides)  Kinda going extinct no one really uses Ides anymore.
Voces (Vao) with an accent, it sounds MUCH different

Go here www.verbix.com

Sorry to confuse you.


Actually, you can. éèïùÿÖ. See? All you need to do is hold down ALT, type in a number on the number pad without letting ALT go, then let go, and you can do most any of the ASCII keys even on such forums as these (unfortunately, though, the Greek keys don't seem to work, save for ß.) Most of the accents are from 129 to somewhere near 200, sort of scattered about.

Anyway, with words like that, it's easy to see the Latin roots in Portuguese. Take 'tu'. I'm not fully sure what it is in Latin, but I know that the possessive 'your' is tuus. Also 'nos'; our in latin is nostre or something like that, I believe. What happened was that, as the Roman Empire went into its later and weaker stages, not only did the further people begin to encroach on its territories (sometimes invited, even, to ward off the fearsome people from further east, like the Huns), but commanders and even emperors ceased being Roman. Eventually, as the Empire proper dispersed in the 400s, the people took Latin with them, but as is the way with such things, it changed in time, differently in different areas. Thus we have Latin turning into Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, French... the Romance languages, essentially.

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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2005, 06:29:41 pm »
Special characters are even easier on Macs. Option+e, e (hold option and press e, release both, press e) produces é. Option+e, a produces á. Option+i, i produces î. Option+n, a produces ã, essential for Portuguese.

The conjugation in Portuguese looks very similar to that of Spanish or Italian. I expected as much.

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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2005, 10:08:44 pm »
I know how to do it, i just don't have a number bad, I'm on a laptop computer, no number pad or character map.  Getting the codes for that off sites would take ages to make posts.

True, conjugated more like Spanish, except spanish is more simple to conjugated with less stresses on accents.  

Ex.

In Portuguese, we never end a word with the letter 'N' only with M, that means that we dont say MEN, we say MEM but it does not sound like MEM it sounds like MEN... lol weird but true.

Another thing is that we love to use the til (~) to make our vowels sound like 'n's.  It's easier for us to identify words than rather having them end with N.

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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2005, 12:23:15 am »
How does one pronounce "São Paolo"?

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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2005, 01:56:12 pm »
A Common mistake between people, who pronounce it San Paulo.

It's  Sow+n (ow like ouch with the n making it oun as in noun)  Paulo (another thing is our o's at the end of words never sound like o's but u's; so thats Pow like in ouch again, loo, as in the name louis.)
 
Our Alphabet only has 23 letters.
ABCDEFGHIJLMNOPQRSTUVXZ.

We have no K, W, or Y.

Instead for K we use C for a and o and u, but we use QU for soft vowels like e and i.  Another intersting thing is that 'i' in portuguese is prounounced 'e' like in english, but 'e' in portuguese is prounounced 'eh'.  But we never use this when its at the end of a word or when we use 'e' for and.  At the end of the word, be becomes 'uh' but a very silent 'uh'.

W, which doesnt exist in any romance language unless in foreign words, can be substitued with O and E together, like in the word Oeste.  It means West, and sounds similar.

Y, only exists as a letter when it needs to, like in foreign names or spanish or french words borrowed, but never Italian words because Italian has no Y either.  It sounds just like 'i' and doesnt look as awkward at the end of sentences, which is why it is used ONLY in words that come from Spain and France.

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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2005, 02:29:36 am »
Another thing we love to do is we over use E with the Circumflex ( ^ ) followed with an S.  This being said, You can spell Ines (forgive me for not having the e with circumflex) and spell Inez, and they would sound exactly the same.  Although 'z' endings signify Arabic influences, its still essential to Portuguese, and portuguese only.

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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2005, 02:43:15 am »
there are many accent (english word) in frnch to had

Noël -> Christmas
élèves -> students
François -> Darkgizmo's cool first name
tête -> head

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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2005, 02:47:03 am »
Portuguese uses:

Tilde Accent = ~ (til)
Grave Accent = / (Grave)
Acute Accent = \ (Aguda)
Circumflex = ^ (Circumflesso)


My computer sucks though, so I can't make accents.

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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2005, 10:35:59 am »
My mother tounge is Russian. I left Russia and went overseas at the age of 5. Basically now, I speak English better than I do Russian... I think that when i'm 20, I'll do courses in relearning my mother tounge >.<

I mean like I speak Russian at home, but Russian words that I don't know, i'll simply say the english one.

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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2005, 11:41:11 am »
My mother-tongue is Russian, too. When I was age 1 my family moved to Israel. Thus, I know: Russian, Hebrew, English,

I also started learning Japanese thanks to Anime.... Hey, it worked with English for me, why can't it work for Japanese?

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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2005, 01:45:54 pm »
Hmm, i speak Hebrew, 'cuz i was born in Israel, I allso speal English as you might notice, and i speal Arabic, we learn it in school. Like Legend of the past, i'm learning Japanese from watching anime's.

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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2005, 01:49:43 pm »
Well I speak English cause I was born and raised in US.  I moved to Germany and can speak some, and I took two years of Spanish in my first two years of High School.

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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2005, 05:01:48 pm »
I quit learning Japanese, I'm not going to need it when I move back to Europe.  But yeah. My grandfather could speak 8 languages, when he was sane, Portuguese, French, Spanish, Italian, German, English, Greek, and I have no clue.  But when the invasion came, they raided my grandfather's palazzo, and they took his journal.  We got it back and I'm trying to read it.  Just the parts i understand though.

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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2005, 06:03:07 pm »
Can't you ask your parents to read it to you?