Lavos Spawn shells on Death Peak

[Mystik3eb]

Personally, does anyone know what the Japanese version stated on the flame? Wether it was a part of his shell, or could it have been a part of his brain, a heart? etc.

Doesn't matter. We know from interviews that Kato worked directly with the translator on plot issues that were found, and were corrected for the English version. The Jap version ain't gonna be more correct than the Eng...one.

[Zaperking]

Personally, does anyone know what the Japanese version stated on the flame? Wether it was a part of his shell, or could it have been a part of his brain, a heart? etc.

Doesn't matter. We know from interviews that Kato worked directly with the translator on plot issues that were found, and were corrected for the English version. The Jap version ain't gonna be more correct than the Eng...one.

Haven't you seen all the Wooleyisms? Especially that thing about Lavos shooting eggs was way different than what Belthasar said about him reigning from atop Death Peak.

It may be the same thing but the translation was different, and the Japanese version may have said something like "the organ of Lavos splintered off" etc etc. Who knows.

[Chrono'99]

Personally, does anyone know what the Japanese version stated on the flame? Wether it was a part of his shell, or could it have been a part of his brain, a heart? etc.

Doesn't matter. We know from interviews that Kato worked directly with the translator on plot issues that were found, and were corrected for the English version. The Jap version ain't gonna be more correct than the Eng...one.

Haven't you seen all the Wooleyisms? Especially that thing about Lavos shooting eggs was way different than what Belthasar said about him reigning from atop Death Peak.

It may be the same thing but the translation was different, and the Japanese version may have said something like "the organ of Lavos splintered off" etc etc. Who knows.

Woolsey didn't work on CC. Woolsey worked more or less alone on CT, while Honeywood worked on CC with Kato's advice.

[Zaperking]

Personally, does anyone know what the Japanese version stated on the flame? Wether it was a part of his shell, or could it have been a part of his brain, a heart? etc.

Doesn't matter. We know from interviews that Kato worked directly with the translator on plot issues that were found, and were corrected for the English version. The Jap version ain't gonna be more correct than the Eng...one.

Haven't you seen all the Wooleyisms? Especially that thing about Lavos shooting eggs was way different than what Belthasar said about him reigning from atop Death Peak.

It may be the same thing but the translation was different, and the Japanese version may have said something like "the organ of Lavos splintered off" etc etc. Who knows.

Woolsey didn't work on CC. Woolsey worked more or less alone on CT, while Honeywood worked on CC with Kato's advice.

Kk, Honeywoodism then.
Kato = Engrish XD

If Kato supervised the Japanese version, and even then there were mistakes, i'd doubt that the English version came off clean and perfect too.

[Chrono'99]

Okay. Let's assume that you are right and that there are mistakes in the English version: what is your point then?

[Zaperking]

Okay. Let's assume that you are right and that there are mistakes in the English version: what is your point then?

That things like "the FF is just a part of Lavos' Shell" may be invalid, and would make the FF seem more significant and not just some item that every Lavoid would have. Also, if it only belongs to Lavos, then it makes it more special, and takes away that whole Genova theme about it.

[ChronoMagus]

Uhm we really don't know about the position of Lavos amongst his species.  Frankly I view a fragment of a giant space monster's shell that sucks the life out of the host world significant enough.  Maybe Lavoids have a developed society and very powerful ones get stuff like the FF. Maybe Lavos was some great lord of the Lavoids and his shell was special.  Or maybe its just a piece of Lavos' shell and the reason the spawn don't have it, is because they are not old enough and need to be further developed for the minerals to form the FF.

FF being part of Lavos' shell just does not make the FF look less significant.  And it makes a lot of logical sense

[sssssz]

Or if you assume that there were no Lavoses beside the Lavos, this whole thing becomes pointless. Lavos spawns? Reproduction of independent offspring may be a trait learned from the Earth. So it's possible that there were no seperate Lavoses and Lavos' genetic data forms the Frozen Flame/s in its shell... or something. Then, those Frozen Flames can be linked to the Lavos' mind, like how the Frozen Flame and Lavos/Time Devourer worked in CC.

...or something.

[ChronoMagus]

Exactly...
we know that Lavos is a giant freakishly huge space monster that comes. smashes into Earth, sucks life out of the planet, damns it eternally, and then reproduces.  He also has manipulation over dimensions and time.  
But for all we know, he could have damned countless other planets.  He could be the first, last, only, or just plain average loser of his kind.  He could have had 0 children before Earth or 10000.  He could have a day job back on the Lavosian homeworld, and this is what he does on vacation... Ok so maybe not the last one, but technically its possible.

[supaaren]

What about the humanoids inside of Lavos?  When Lavos spawned, we don't know exactly what is going on inside their shells; we don't know how developed they are...  Perhaps it takes a fully developed humanoid within the shell to produce power enough in the shell so that if a shard breaks off, it would be something like the Frozen Flame...?

[ChronoMagus]

The problem with that... (and also the problem with the whole the Humanoid Lavos Core is the Lavoid Race and the Shell is just a space ship...) is that Lavos only became humanoid by absorbing the life force of humans...  The FF predates modern humans, and thus Lavos at that time would be simply starting to develop his humanoid form.  On different planets Lavos would look completely different, unless the humans were also dominant there.