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Lordchander

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« on: July 01, 2005, 03:27:49 am »
This is annoying me so much, I need answers to this question! At the time of the Fall of Guardia, so many people think that Crono died. How could he though? If he could have taken down Lavos on his own (which he can if u do new game+), he could have taken on the entire Porre Army. Now the fact remains that if he wasn't in the fighting, where was he? He might have easily been king of Guardia at the time! King Guardia XXXIII (i think) was already old-looking in 1005 AD (look at his sprite again), so he could have died within 2 years easily. Now if Crono married Marle/Nadia, he would have been king.

Now, IF he was king, Crono could have stayed at Guardia Castle discussing battle plans and so forth. So if he was away from battle most of the time, how could he have died? Assassination? Porre spies threw a bomb in the castle window? The Chrono Break? (lots of ppl agree that the Chrono Break was/is an assassination weapon) All this remains to be seen.

So, what do u ppl all think eh?

PS: Remember, im only new here and am not a Chrono Historian/Loremaster by any means, so cut me a bit of slack plz?

PPS: The compendium is great!

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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2005, 03:39:57 am »
But wouldn't he have had to have waited for the original king to have died or resigned?  It's only common courtesy in monarchy to wait for your crown, rather than to take it.  That is, if he was king anyway.

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2005, 03:43:34 am »
Well quote form chrono cross tell us that Crono choke on an apple and died, I know is sound ridiculous but like you said he was too powerful to be killed by Porre so squaresoft did this trick to continue the story without Crono...







I hope someone will fall into this, the real thing is unknow and there are many discussion throughout the compendium, did you read them all?

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2005, 04:00:44 am »
no, i havent read all the discussions yet as im still fairly new here at the compendium (though I have known about events in CT for a long while though so im not a noob on CT events, though i am a noob at the compendium)

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2005, 10:15:28 am »
Quote from: Lordchander
This is annoying me so much, I need answers to this question! At the time of the Fall of Guardia, so many people think that Crono died. How could he though? If he could have taken down Lavos on his own (which he can if u do new game+), he could have taken on the entire Porre Army. Now the fact remains that if he wasn't in the fighting, where was he? He might have easily been king of Guardia at the time!


Ugh. Not that again........
Some people brought the same issue regarding Aeris in 'Final Fantasy VII'....... x_x

Do not confuse the characters in "battle mode" and in "story mode". ;P





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Now, IF he was king, Crono could have stayed at Guardia Castle discussing battle plans and so forth. So if he was away from battle most of the time, how could he have died? Assassination? Porre spies threw a bomb in the castle window? The Chrono Break? (lots of ppl agree that the Chrono Break was/is an assassination weapon) All this remains to be seen.


Do you really think that Crono wouldn't stay at the castle while his country is in chaos? - I really doubt it.

Moreover - depends on which "universe" we're talking about, there are several ways that Crono could have been killed (though he probably still alive in other universes). Those, I guess are the most likely:

1. Execution by the Porre Army.
2. Assassination (Lynx... The Chrono Break.... Lucca being murdered by Lynx....).

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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2005, 01:02:21 pm »
There is another thread on this, called the "did crono die when Porre attacked" or something.

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2005, 06:31:51 am »
Radical Dreamer wrote:
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Ugh. Not that again........
Some people brought the same issue regarding Aeris in 'Final Fantasy VII'....... x_x


Do not confuse the characters in "battle mode" and in "story mode". ;P


I see wat your saying, their strength isnt the same as what is in battle. Its just thats how things tend to go in RPGs. Like in FFX where Yuna is about to be married to Seymour and all the guards had their guns pointed to Tidus and the rest when they could have just jumped up high and killed them all with magic, but its the "story mode", they can easily do that in "battle mode". Is this wat ur saying?

Note: Ever noticed that no one ever used magic outside of battle in FFX, aside from stuff like the sending and that.

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2005, 11:00:20 am »
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I see wat your saying, their strength isnt the same as what is in battle. Its just thats how things tend to go in RPGs. Like in FFX where Yuna is about to be married to Seymour and all the guards had their guns pointed to Tidus and the rest when they could have just jumped up high and killed them all with magic, but its the "story mode", they can easily do that in "battle mode". Is this wat ur saying?


Exactly.

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2005, 03:35:32 pm »
The Crono Trigger characters can be infered to possess super-human characterists.  This has been argued to death.

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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2005, 08:36:19 pm »
Also, most of those "out of battle" things were surprise attacks...Like w/Aeris...The act of a surprise attack changes everything.

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2005, 09:57:48 pm »
Theories: Crono got killed by a surprise blow!

This in only acceptable if he was king or prince and Porre decided to hit him to hurt Guardia's morale.

if not I don't see Crono lying down and tell everyone "Hey, I saved the world, my work here is done" so he must have expected being attack or was in the very war.

Theories: Crono became an ermit

That one I just made up, but it make some sense

Crono and co. knew that Lavos altered the human brain and they fough Lavos to save the humans.

They come back all happy (except Magus), until some war start, innocent ar killed by the very same sword Glenn used and all Crono and co. dones have no effect on the human nature, they're always power hungry.

Since Crono has no will to fight "stupid" humans being he go in his hideout and become an ermit, forgotten in a 20-10(?) year span.

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I like the my theory because it leave Crono (and possibly Marle) alive and how Porro won etc...

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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2005, 08:13:35 am »
Quote from: DarkGizmo
Theories: Crono got killed by a surprise blow!

This in only acceptable if he was king or prince and Porre decided to hit him to hurt Guardia's morale.

if not I don't see Crono lying down and tell everyone "Hey, I saved the world, my work here is done" so he must have expected being attack or was in the very war.

Theories: Crono became an ermit

That one I just made up, but it make some sense

Crono and co. knew that Lavos altered the human brain and they fough Lavos to save the humans.

They come back all happy (except Magus), until some war start, innocent ar killed by the very same sword Glenn used and all Crono and co. dones have no effect on the human nature, they're always power hungry.

Since Crono has no will to fight "stupid" humans being he go in his hideout and become an ermit, forgotten in a 20-10(?) year span.

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I like the my theory because it leave Crono (and possibly Marle) alive and how Porro won etc...


The only thing that really works in this theory is that Porre won and Crono, Marle and Lucca are alive, aside from that it's really quite...eh...strange and a bit laughable, though I see your point on it.

I just cant really imagine Crono not wanting to help out in any form of way. And anyway, the Fall of Guardia never happened in the Lavos Timeline, it did in both Keystone T-1 and T-2. So if Crono was to not help, as he probably would not have in the Lavos Timeline, Guardia probably would have won.

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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2005, 09:59:53 am »
Real life example:  Genghis Khan was supposedly killed by falling off his horse.

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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2005, 01:31:00 pm »
Attila the Hun died of a nose-bleed.

But I don't see Crono staying back in Guardia castle, waiting assassination.  I see it more likely that hes behind enemy lines.

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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2005, 02:00:48 pm »
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But I don't see Crono staying back in Guardia castle, waiting assassination.


I don't think that someone awaits for his own assassination.  :)