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Why Crono?
« Reply #180 on: July 31, 2005, 06:27:32 am »
What makes Crono the heir?

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« Reply #181 on: July 31, 2005, 06:43:13 am »
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What makes Crono the heir?


If I remember right from the PS version of CT, there was a cutscene in the ending where Crono and Marle were getting married. Thus, Crono would have been marrying into the royal family, and would then become the next King.

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« Reply #183 on: July 31, 2005, 07:32:35 am »
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That's funny, I don't remember anywhere in the game where they fully map out Guardia's inheritance...


True, but if King Guardia XXXIII had a son, he sure did miss alot of screen time. Nor did Marle ever speak of a brother. I think at this point it was safe to assume Marle was an only child. With that in mind, Crono marrying the princess of the Guardia Kingdom would automatically place him at the top of the chain as next in line for the crown, by normal standards.

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Why Crono?
« Reply #184 on: July 31, 2005, 07:48:27 am »
There is no 'normal' in a world of Magic, Mystics, and giant intersteller cosmos destructors.

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« Reply #185 on: July 31, 2005, 08:01:43 am »
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There is no 'normal' in a world of Magic, Mystics, and giant intersteller cosmos destructors.


Understandable, but if the piece fits the puzzle...

It was just a theory, afterall.  :wink:

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« Reply #186 on: July 31, 2005, 08:03:00 am »
There is, it's just not...well...our normal.

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« Reply #187 on: July 31, 2005, 08:52:17 am »
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Where the heck are they gonna face 100,000 troops all at once? That doesn't sound very tactical...Plus, you gotta keep in mind that Crono's super fast, especially if boosted by Marle's Haste spell. He could take out quite a few with a few well-placed Luminaire attacks. Marle, while she isn't the best, is Mrs. Healy McSupportcharacter after all...


1. Their magic may have been weakened.
2. What if they didn't wear their armour?
3. A few bullets would pierce the prism armour and a sniper bullet to the head = dead.
4. I don't think they would ever want to kill real humans, probably just knock them unconcious.

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« Reply #188 on: July 31, 2005, 09:16:02 am »
Guns never struck me as staples during the 1000AD era. Granted Lucca had one, but she was uber-genious inventor girl. It was clear she built hers. However, you never really came across guns much in either game if I remember correctly. Guns seemed either very hard to come by, or extremely expensive to own. So when you consider having to supply an entire army with them, it just doesn't come together.

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« Reply #189 on: July 31, 2005, 11:51:42 am »
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Guns never struck me as staples during the 1000AD era. Granted Lucca had one, but she was uber-genious inventor girl. It was clear she built hers. However, you never really came across guns much in either game if I remember correctly. Guns seemed either very hard to come by, or extremely expensive to own. So when you consider having to supply an entire army with them, it just doesn't come together.


Every Porre soldier is issued in guns. It is obviously seen in CC.

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« Reply #190 on: July 31, 2005, 08:01:29 pm »
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Where the heck are they gonna face 100,000 troops all at once? That doesn't sound very tactical...Plus, you gotta keep in mind that Crono's super fast, especially if boosted by Marle's Haste spell. He could take out quite a few with a few well-placed Luminaire attacks. Marle, while she isn't the best, is Mrs. Healy McSupportcharacter after all...


1. Their magic may have been weakened.
2. What if they didn't wear their armour?
3. A few bullets would pierce the prism armour and a sniper bullet to the head = dead.
4. I don't think they would ever want to kill real humans, probably just knock them unconcious.


They killed Daltons guards in the Ocean Palace without hesistation, and they were human.

I wouldn't understand why they wouldn't have thier magical powers, it's not like they fade away once thier adventure is over. Spekkio "unlocked" (or whatever you want to call it) thier powers. He didn't loan them magical abilities, he isn't the Hertz of Magic.

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Why Crono?
« Reply #191 on: July 31, 2005, 08:08:17 pm »
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1. Their magic may have been weakened.
2. What if they didn't wear their armour?
3. A few bullets would pierce the prism armour and a sniper bullet to the head = dead.
4. I don't think they would ever want to kill real humans, probably just knock them unconcious.


1. SilentMartyr covered this one.
2. Then you're assuming that it's a sneak attack and then had absolutely no preparation at all.
3. Yes, and as we see from CC, getting shot by Porrean guns is anything but devastating.
4. SilentMartyr also covered this one.

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« Reply #192 on: July 31, 2005, 08:22:02 pm »
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getting shot by Porrean guns is anything but devastating.


 :lol:

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« Reply #193 on: July 31, 2005, 09:37:48 pm »
Do I really have to take this agian?  You people need to not think of Crono's possible actions agianst Porre in terms of mere numbers.  Fighting with early guns was 2 armies lining up, marching up close to one another, and then just start firing, and the side the dies the least wins.  This would have to be where Crono would fight 100,000 soldiers.  But does this sound like how Crono would fight?  Of course not.  Crono would go behind enemy lines, sack fortresses, and gureilla tactics.  Is this not how Crono defeated the Mystics, Mother Brain's machines, the reptites, Dalton's forces, Queen Zeal's forces, etc etc?  The only battle Crono ever waged with an army was at Zenan Bridge, agianst beast that those weak Porrean guns would have been useless agianst.  Yet he defeated them.  But other than that, Crono did not engage in the epic battles of armies.

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« Reply #194 on: August 01, 2005, 12:21:31 am »
Do not underestimate the power of the time travelers.

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In 65 million BC, Lavos impacted the surface of the earth at meteoric speed, creating a fireball that covered most of the continent and caused a global climactic change that lasted for millions of years. This explosion is similar to the K-T Meteor impact, which is estimated to have released energy equivalent to 100 trillion Tons of TNT.

The K-T impact vaporized, melted, or ejected over 200 thousand cubic kilometers of the earth's crust, producing a crater 180 kilometer wide and several kilometers deep. The object penetrated 15 kilometers into the earth before being almost completely vaporized.

For comparison, the most powerful hydrogen bomb ever produced had a yield of 50 million Tons of TNT, and the total world nuclear arsenal has a combined yield of approximately 5 billion Tons of TNT. The explosion of Krakatoa, the most violent volcanic eruption in recorded history, released energy equivalent to 200 million Tons of TNT.


These are the facts

1.) Lavos withstood an impact equivalent to 100 trillion Tons of TNT without harm, but Crono was able to hurt it with his sword and magic.

2.)Lavos ruined the surface of the earth in seconds (releasing even more energy than its impact), but Crono could survive its most powerful attacks in a fight to the death.

In order to defeat Lavos, the travelers must have incredible abilities.  Although mortal, the travelers faced Lavos as an equal in power.  The blows exchanged in the final battle with Lavos were earth-shattering.  No weapon available to Porre could begin to compare.

No matter how powerful and effective the travelers' weapons and armour were, they had to endure some fraction of these energies, which still makes them super-human.  Given these facts, it is entirely reasonable that Crono, unclothed, could survive the simultaneous detonation of every nuclear weapon on earth piled around him, let alone a bullet.

To think that Crono would be concerned with any number of common soldiers or mundane weapons is absurd.  If Crono participated in a war with Porre, entire armies would annihilated by his attacks.  Only the most elite warriors with high level elements, like Norris or Grobyc, could offer even token opposition, and they would be inevitably defeated.

The time travelers did not participate in the fall of Guardia or the events of Chrono Cross for unknown reasons, not because of Porre, simply because they are too powerful.