Why Crono?

[Sentenal]

ive said my point many times, if youve forgot already i advise you read this entire pointless argument, for i refuse to call it a debate, all over again.

When facts are brought agianst him, his "arguement" falls apart around him.

[Zaperking]

Wow, if hes telling me not to be retarted, its him crying that I some how started a fight.  The comendium has really fallen.

Personality changing does not make you a different person.  Just though you might want to know.  I'm the same person I was when I was a kid.  I can't see how you can look at that definition and say Magus was being literal.  Because he is the same distinct entity as Janus.

Why am I even bothering?

Here's an example:
"Hey Serge"
"Yeah Kid?"
"Look, I cut my hair short. I won't look like Schala anymore"
"Oh YEAH! You look like a totally different person!"
"Well I am! I'm not a princess, mate"

There. If a person believes they are different, then they are a different person, because they're different from what they possibly where. Like a Crono A from 1000AD who travelled to 600AD mets Crono B from 12,000BC who went to 600AD etc.

[Sentenal]

Wow, if hes telling me not to be retarted, its him crying that I some how started a fight.  The comendium has really fallen.

Personality changing does not make you a different person.  Just though you might want to know.  I'm the same person I was when I was a kid.  I can't see how you can look at that definition and say Magus was being literal.  Because he is the same distinct entity as Janus.

Why am I even bothering?

Here's an example:
"Hey Serge"
"Yeah Kid?"
"Look, I cut my hair short. I won't look like Schala anymore"
"Oh YEAH! You look like a totally different person!"
"Well I am! I'm not a princess, mate"

There. If a person believes they are different, then they are a different person, because they're different from what they possibly where. Like a Crono A from 1000AD who travelled to 600AD mets Crono B from 12,000BC who went to 600AD etc.

... Are you sure your not arguing agianst yourself...?  Kid would still be Kid, regardless of how she changed her physical appearance.  Or is that refering to Kid being Schala?  There, they were difference before, as Kid is Schala's daughter-clone, not a straight clone.

[V_Translanka]

For starters, you guys all need to pick up that clever little device called the spell-checker...Or maybe Preview your posts beforehand? Look things over for yourself? I know some people in the Compendium aren't using English as their first language...but still...And yes, I know complaining about grammar on the internet is fruitless, especially since I often make my own share of mistakes, but I just thought it might be worth pointing out...

Also...'daughter-clone' is nothing but a fancy name for a clone. There is no difference; it's just semantics.

[kazmaka]

ive said my point many times, if youve forgot already i advise you read this entire pointless argument, for i refuse to call it a debate, all over again.

When facts are brought agianst him, his "arguement" falls apart around him.

where are you pulling all this from? what facts made my argument fall apart?
there were a load of facts that showed it as a valid point, and a half a fact showing it wasnt which zaper debated against anyway.

Also...'daughter-clone' is nothing but a fancy name for a clone. There is no difference; it's just semantics.

so schala and kid are the same entity though i doubt thats the right word to use here, but their very diferent people. translanka can you pull out that dictionary of yours and find out the definition of entity, alas the posibilities of having a dictionary   .

[Legend of the Past]

en·ti·ty Pronunciation (nt-t)
n. pl. en·ti·ties
1. Something that exists as a particular and discrete unit: Persons and corporations are equivalent entities under the law.
2. The fact of existence; being.
3. The existence of something considered apart from its properties.
[Medieval Latin entits, from Latin ns, ent-, present participle of esse, to be; see es- in Indo-European roots.]

There. And Kid and Schala aren't the same Entity, their just identicel in terms of genes. It's like she took out one of her breeding cells (Gosh, I don't know how female breeding cells are called in english), pulled out the Nucleus, and put in on of her own Nucleus', then allowed the cell to evolve into a body. You have a copy of yourself, but how it evolves from baby to a full grown, in this case, woman as little to do with your personality. However, both Schala and Kid share a sense of jutstice and want to make things right.

[kazmaka]

i said entity wasnt the right word, but you must know what im saying.

[V_Translanka]

I dunno if it was exactly as scientifical as Legend of the Past put it, since Schala used Magic to make Kid...But yeah, they're different people. It's like having a twin basically, except even MORE like you genetically.

[Legend of the Past]

t's like having a twin basically, except even MORE like you genetically.

Precisely.

[Zaperking]

Though, Kid is Schala, who grew up in a different surrounding. They are the same entity, and as it can be said "they are different people". That's the same as Magus and Janus. Magus goes up to Janus, Janus is like WTF, and Magus tells like Crono "I used to be different, didn't I".
Schala grew up differently, matured. Kid was cloned, grew up. Schala looks at Kid "Wow, you're a different person to me". They're mentally different... And physically only different by Scars that Kid has on her elbows and some white face paint.

[V_Translanka]

Uh, they would be vastly different people because they both grew up in entirely different surroundings and in entirely different circumstances...While their genetics may be the same, their environments were not. Whereas Magus is simply the Janus-to-be. He's a different person in that he was younger, perhaps more foolish and stuck-up...Janus was a Magus before he learned the hardships of the world.

[kazmaka]

Uh, they would be vastly different people because they both grew up in entirely different surroundings and in entirely different circumstances...While their genetics may be the same, their environments were not. Whereas Magus is simply the Janus-to-be. He's a different person in that he was younger, perhaps more foolish and stuck-up...Janus was a Magus before he learned the hardships of the world.

magus did grow up in a completely diferent environment to that which janus had growed up to and would of kept growing up to if he hadnt been gated.

[V_Translanka]

Uh, I didn't say they didn't grow up in different invironments >_>

And it's irrelevent as to whether he would have grown up differently had he not been gated, because he was and there's no timeline that says differently...Not even the new timeline But none of that matters anyways because Janus & Magus aren't clones of one another...

[Legend of the Past]

The option of Janus growing up in Zeal is stupid, considering that in every possible scenario Zeal was either not there or it fell.

[kazmaka]

that is also irelevant, what me and zapar are saying is still true.