Why Crono?

[DeweyisOverrated]

Basically kazmaka, look at it like this:

Janus/Magus Relationship - Right now, as you read this, you are Janus.  Now picture yourself 20 years from now.  What you are picturing 20 years from now is Magus.

Kid/Schala Relationship - Picture yourself, right now.  You are Schala.  Now, picture your first son.  Your son is Kid.  

Hopefully you understand the difference.

And kazmaka, have you beaten Chrono Cross yet?  I don't think you have, which is not helping your case... and neither is your refusal to use capital letters.

[Zaperking]

Kid is a girl... And she's not a daughter. She really is a clone.

[Legend of the Past]

Yeah, Daughter-Clone is a sciencetific term. Like when a Cell replicates, the two cells produced from it are called the "Daugther Cells", while they are actually clones of each other.

[kazmaka]

wow i didnt need to say it, cheers guys.

[V_Translanka]

Basically, what you need is this simple graph-like solution of educational power...

someone and that same someone, only later on in life (i.e. later in time)=/=someone and that same someone's clone

See how simple it is?

[Legend of the Past]

Yeah. Like both Janus and Magus are very vain. Kid is vain, but Schala is not. Janus and Magus have quite the few similarites in their personalities because they're the same person. Kid only looks like Schala. She has little to nothing else in common with her.

[kazmaka]

thats only because she grew up in a diferent place, and never had schala's first years, if she did which magus did it would be the same, and although you only see about 5 lines from janus he seems rather diferent to magus, as people have said, they never thought they could be the same person, as you could never think kid and schala could be the same.

[Legend of the Past]

Schala and Kid are not the same person. If I would be born in the court of Zeal and grew up the way she did, I would be like her, too! (Except I woulden't have a vagina or breasts... But that's besides the point!) Am I the same entity as Schala? No. Kid just looks like Schala, she has her genes. How she might of grown up dosen't make her Schala, because that applies for everyone else.

[Zaperking]

Now you're saying that to be a different entity, you need to have a different personality.. This debate is splitting off to much. Janus' and Magus' personality still differs. And Magus' pigments and some genes are different to what he was in 12,000AD as Janus. Even his personality has changed. All about dark and sorrow, destroying all his loved ones anyway. Janus doesn't have an aura like that.

Same with Robo. If the one from 1000AD met the one in 600AD (which means you had the entity talk) the 600AD Robo might still have different opinions on it. Maybe disagree about an entity or power etc.

Make sure you know what your talking about. Clearly explain it. Does being a different person depend on their personality or body? IT CAN BE BOTH!

[Legend of the Past]

It is both. I was just saying that Schala and Kid have the same body, and are not the same entity. However, Janus grew to become Janus. It makes no sense with the Schala-Kid case for several reasons, one of which is that Kid is older then Schala already. Schala can't be Kid, Kid can't be Schala. Janus can be Magus, but then again, Magus can't be Janus. I can have Kid's personality, but does that make me Kid? I can have Janus' and Magus' personalities, does it make me either one of them? No. The very core of the matter is that I can look like Janus, talk like Janus and think like Janus, but I can't be Janus. Because Janus is Janus and I am I. It's in fact pretty hard to think of it in another way then this. When Magus said he was someone else then, it was in a figure of speech. His sorrow as a child is what made him as he is as an adult. Like stuff that happaned to me as a child make me the current 'me'. I'm still that same little boy I was before: Except for my looks and personality.

[DeweyisOverrated]

I specifically left out the daughter-clone part to simplify it somewhat.

Think of it this way, are you different personality wise now then from when you were 5 years old?  Most likely.  Are you the same physical being?  Yes.  You're the same entity.

[Legend of the Past]

Are you the same physical being?

Yes an no. Still the same body, but it changed during the years. Sexual awakening, changes in height and weight, body defences improve, voice changing, etc.

[kazmaka]

also if you say you are who are you are because of your genes, well nowadays you can easily have them changed, so would you then be a diferent entity?

[Legend of the Past]

No, I never said that. Quiet the contrary, your genes don't define your being an entity. All those things that change as you age: They're already in your genes. What defines you being an entity is you. You say that your name is kazama, your this and this years-old. You know who you are, and your genes\personality don't matter, because people might have your personlity and your looks. But they aren't you. But even if you say you're Janus, you look like Janus and you have his personality, deep inside you'll know: You used to be kazama. That alone makes sure you could never of truly been completly Janus. Same with Magus, he's STILL Janus, although he looks and calls himself differently.

[kazmaka]

Aah i never said you, I was thinking someone else said that, cant remember who. Thats an interesting point, with the Serge=Lynx thing that happens in the Dragonion Fortress as good backup. If Sentenal came up with that earlier we would of had something real to think upon.

Hmm, actaully side-tracking slightly this reminds of a line from Tales Of Symphonia, i my opinion an awesome game, merely because of its good story and life lessons, Lloyd says something that incurs the theory, no matter what happens to you, you are you, if you sprout wings and turn into an angel, you are still you, he says "you are you" many times in that game.

Ooh i gotta go play Lineage II, servers been down all day its finally back up, ill finish this later.