Why Crono?

[Legend of the Past]

~Sigh~

You don't get it. If I oversleep, my mother wakes me up. That's because sleeping to much messes up your biological clock. Besides, even if the Planet DID cause Gina to wake Crono up, what POINT did it have if Crono never overslept in the first place?

And who is to say Crono was actually excited about the Fair? Gina just assumed it was so, since he overslept.

[Ryuusai]

Well I get it and I'm not saying the Planet caused Crono to oversleep or that he was exicted about the fair.

[DarkGizmo]

~Sigh~

You don't get it. If I oversleep, my mother wakes me up. That's because sleeping to much messes up your biological clock. Besides, even if the Planet DID cause Gina to wake Crono up, what POINT did it have if Crono never overslept in the first place?

And who is to say Crono was actually excited about the Fair? Gina just assumed it was so, since he overslept.

Ok you confused me here, you said:

In the Lavos Timeline, The entity would have trigger a beep dream so he could wake up early and then going to the fair testing the telepod and going home later nothing happen Crono has unintentially killed thousand of human

but what changed that is the entity didn,t trigger the dream thus his mom wake him late...

[Legend of the Past]

No, what I meant is:

The Entity triggered the dream so he'd wake up late and go to the fair the same time Marle snuck out of the Castle, bumping into her, and getting his hands on the pendent.

If there's no dream, Crono wakes up in the usual time, goes to the fair (Neither early nor late, actually, at about mid morning), spends time, goes home, dosen't meet Marle, and nothing out of the ordinary happnes.

[Ryuusai]

You know it funny... All my dreams are nightmares and wake me up earilier.  Not that I'm saying the dream idea is wrong.

[Legend of the Past]

I've heard an explanation to that, actually.

When you go to sleep, you dream. Early in the night, as in the first to third hour of sleep, you slip into a very weak dream, meaning your mind isn't quiet into it. Four to six hours, is a very heavy dream, in which case most of your attention goes to the dream. Six to eight hours is another weak dream. Meaning most of the nightmares that wake you up wake you up because you're in the "deep dream": Your entire attention goes to that.

[Ryuusai]

Yeah I heard something like that too, just can't remember where... I think it was health class...

[Legend of the Past]

Yes, well, assuming the Planet triggered that dream, it's not an ordinary dream, and Crono won't wake up 'till the Entity wants him to.

[Ryuusai]

True seeing as it would have occured during four to six hours after he went to sleep so his attention was on the dream.

[Sentenal]

Woah woah woah, back up a bit.  Like what V_Translanka said, who makes the gates?  The entity.  Why did the entity make the gates:  To have someone change history, because the entity was about to die.  We know that history was not changed in the original timeline.  The first place that the entity changed WAS the first gate!  The one at the fair.  Originally, the telepod worked fine, teleporting both Marle and Crono, and everyone was happy till Lavos kills everything.  The entity created the gate, thus allowing for the telepod/pendant to open it, starting the quest.

[Legend of the Past]

Hmm... Wait, you do need the Gate Key... And the Pendent, for that matter... I think you might be right.

But even if the gate was there, it might not of been used. Crono took Marle to  the Telepod, any no one wanted to test it. She either never went there, or she came decided not to take the chance. If she did take the chance, she probably went back in time, but then Lucca would go through it alone, and save Marle and Leene alone.

[Sentenal]

What if, what if, what if.  The entity cannot control induvisuals.  The start of CT was not chance.  Remmber, since the original time had already happend, and the entity was trying to change something, time had already been writen, but was going to change.  Since it can't directly control people, it can influence them by doing what it can:  Creating the gate.  The fact is:  Marle already decided to go on the telepod.  She must have.  Time hadn't been changed yet.  Yet time is then changed with the creation of the gate, allowing them to change the future.

[DarkGizmo]

How can you put gate in a timeline and not in another?

I mean if the entity made the gate it will throw the whole timeline in DBT and the new one will have gate in it... and yet with the gates you still see that Lavos destroyed the future, that means that the Lavos timeline may have not gate, but even with gates it happened, so maybe creating the gates isn't what the entity did to use Crono.

[SilentMartyr]

How can you put gate in a timeline and not in another?

I mean if the entity made the gate it will throw the whole timeline in DBT and the new one will have gate in it... and yet with the gates you still see that Lavos destroyed the future, that means that the Lavos timeline may have not gate, but even with gates it happened, so maybe creating the gates isn't what the entity did to use Crono.

All the Entity did was put the gate there, remember nothing happens in the Chronoverse until it is done. Lavos is not killed until the group kills it. Putting the gate there changes nothing in the timeline besides the fact that there is a gate there.

It pains me to see this argument occur, have you guys ever heard of the theory Occams Razor? Basically it goes like this; the most simple explination is most likely right one. Think about all the crazy stuff that has to go down for all of your theories to work. When simply put, the easiest thing is that in the original timeline the entity didn't put a gate in the telepod because it didn't need it. Everything else stays the same. Crono still wakes up late, still bumps into Marle, still goes in the telepod. Marle would have passed through the telelpod fine, and what happens after that is purely speculation.

[DarkGizmo]

okay then I have one question : When did the entity put the gate? it seems strnage and it's bugging me -_-