Schala and Lavos

[AuraTwilight]

look at Robo, his magic is under the Shadow type, but he's still good.

Robo didn't have magic.

Why was Magus able to cast spells outside of his specialty then?

I don't think so. Their idea of magic was probably that it could do anything, but if one of them talked to Spekkio, he'd probably show them their true type of magic that they'd specialise in. it's kind of like school. We have maths, english, p.e, science etc. We learn all of these, but it doesn't mean that we're the best. And to get a job later, we need to specialise in one of many catagorise.

[Zaperking]

Magus was able to because Shadow magic needs the other magics types for it to be accomplished..

[SilentMartyr]

No it doesn't, shadow magic is 1/4th of the magical power.

Not just magic, but
   EVERYTHING is based on the balance
   of these 4 powers.

If magic elements are combined shadow is produced, but shadow is not always a combination of the other three. Magus has those other spells because he has been practicing Magic for over 20 years. Zealians learned all types of magic, they didn't get assigned an element like the rest of the group. That is why the groups magic is primitive in comparision, they are limited to thier respective element, and without dual and triple techs can not perform any other element.

[teh Schala]

I have to disagree.  When you take Magus to see Spekkio, Spekkio doesn't say "This guy can use all kinds of magic because he's been practicing for 20 years or cause he's so good" or whatever.  He says "You hauled in a marlin here, folks!  He can use Shadow magic!"  Didn't say anything about other types.

So actually, I'd agree that the Shadow magic is comprised of the combination of the other 3.

[SilentMartyr]

So you will just ignore what Spekkio said about the 4 elements being in balance?

Spekkio didn't say that Magus could only use shadow magic. Also you forgot to mention the rest of the line he says about Magus.

[quote"Spekkio"] ...Phew...!!

   You hauled in a marlin here, kids!

   He can use «Shadow»...
   And he could probably teach me a
   thing or two!
[/quote]

If Magus can teach Spekkio a thing or two about magic, he would have to be able to use all four elements very well. Not just shadow because it is a combination of the other three. And plus you don't need all three to make shadow, conbining two of the elements will lead to shadow also.

[V_Translanka]

Since everything is based on a balance of the Four Magical Elements, isn't it probable that even the Magical Elements themselves are based on that balance? Even if it's only two that are needed to create Shadow, that still means that other Magics besides knowing Shadow Magic is necessary to create them. Shadow is comprised of the other three in that any combination of the three, not necessarily all three together, creates it.

[Lordchander]

I don't think so. Their idea of magic was probably that it could do anything, but if one of them talked to Spekkio, he'd probably show them their true type of magic that they'd specialise in. It's kind of like school. We have maths, english, p.e, science etc. We learn all of these, but it doesn't mean that we're the best. And to get a job later, we need to specialise in one of many catagorise.

So are you saying that their magic isnt all just elementaly based on black and white magic, but has magic in the style of say Harry Potter or something?

[Zaperking]

No, That they may know all magic, but they never catagorized it. But they still only specialise in one part of it. Like maying making tabs, which may involve lightning magic to give life to the tabs or something, just an example.

[Lordchander]

So elemental magic, which is only really seen as offensive magic, is just one field of magic for the Zealians?

[V_Translanka]

Cure, Life, & Magus' Barrier are all examples of non-offensive Magics.