Schala and Lavos

[teh Schala]

As you've seen, Zaper, you and I rarely agree when it comes to Schala, but I wholeheartedly agree with you there!  I think the "shadow" type kinda runs in the family.  And while she's probably no offensive magic powerhouse, I can definitely see her doing lots of negative-status attacks and attacks that dispel positive status.

[Lordchander]

This is what i have been trying to say, every1 in Zeal knew all types of magic! We're not talking about that there is the 2 classess of magic. Evry1 in Zeal knew all magic.

And I don't think it's like Princess' can use one kind and Princes can use another. I think it's a matter of personality, if you will. Like Crono, the hero, gets the power of heaven. Lucca, the mad scientist, gets the power of the flame, the heart and core of all industry. Marle gets the power of water and ice, both gentle and dangerous, and Janus uses Dark Magic, as evil as his heart. Schala gets a Light Magic. Why? Beacuse she's good and kind hearted! Schala's the kind of person who's so sweet you wanna hug every time you see her! ^^'

Very good observation, though you didnt explain the reason why Crono has heavenly magic.

[Legend of the Past]

And I don't think it's like Princess' can use one kind and Princes can use another. I think it's a matter of personality, if you will. Like Crono, the hero, gets the power of heaven. Lucca, the mad scientist, gets the power of the flame, the heart and core of all industry. Marle gets the power of water and ice, both gentle and dangerous, and Janus uses Dark Magic, as evil as his heart. Schala gets a Light Magic. Why? Beacuse she's good and kind hearted! Schala's the kind of person who's so sweet you wanna hug every time you see her! ^^'

Very good observation, though you didnt explain the reason why Crono has heavenly magic.[/quote]

Hmm, because the punk is the hero and the good guy? You know, good is kind of attributed to Heaven.

[Lordchander]

And when u say Light Magic, do you mean 'White Magic'? Like pure healing and stuff?

[V_Translanka]

Here's the quote from http://cc.herograw.com/Black/Publications/ctscript.txt:

"The Guru of Life said that Sir
Janus has stronger powers than
even Miss Schala!

Janus must be using her and the
Queen to get to Lavos..."

So there you are.

Ok...So, is that the translation? Because I totally don't remember that...I mean, why would Janus want to get to Lavos???

There's no need to take it so personally. I was simply pointing something out and I was trying to do so without sounding arrogant since it's silly to be arrogant about something like RPG knowledge - hence the 'IMHO,' which was supposed to emphasize the fact I wasn't aiming to sound arrogant. It's not stating the obvious; it's stating the tone I was aiming for.

Ok, it's just a pet peeve of mine when people state that their opinions are their own. I think it's redundant and unnecessary. Plus, no one here, that I know of, ever speaks arrogantly about anything. We're all just talking and theorizing. No need to set up a tone that's already there

As for the magic thread, it's just something I was curious about, and I see no reason why I shouldn't bring it up. Thanks for digging it up for me.

It's not that you shouldn't bring it up, but I just didn't want this thread to get sidetracked when there's already a thread dedicated to that. And no prob, I think it was stickied or pinned or w/e these forums use anyhow...

And also, I still don't really get that stuff you're talking about too much LotP because I dont' really see Magus as being evil...but he's definately...SHADY (is there an E in that?)!!!

[L33t Ninj4]

Here's the quote from http://cc.herograw.com/Black/Publications/ctscript.txt:

"The Guru of Life said that Sir
Janus has stronger powers than
even Miss Schala!

Janus must be using her and the
Queen to get to Lavos..."

So there you are.

Ok...So, is that the translation? Because I totally don't remember that...I mean, why would Janus want to get to Lavos???

Wasn't that just some Zealians' thoughts on the matter?

And also, I still don't really get that stuff you're talking about too much LotP because I dont' really see Magus as being evil...but he's definately...SHADY (is there an E in that?)!!!

Agreed. I don't think Janus was every really evil, just reserved and mysterious, not to mention he was looking out for number one before all else. But then as Magus he did have access to a broader spectrum of magic as well.

[Legend of the Past]

His soul is dark and scarred. Not evil, no... more like dark and emotionally scared. Well, that fits, too.

[V_Translanka]

Oh, then Marle & Lucca are emotionally scarred too. I still don't think it fits just because he fell on some bad times...Or, more accurately, bad times were thrust upon him

[Legend of the Past]

Oh, then Marle & Lucca are emotionally scarred too. I still don't think it fits just because he fell on some bad times...Or, more accurately, bad times were thrust upon him

I already explained why Marle and Lucca got their types of magic. Janus is dark at soul, thus he gets Dark Magic. Lucca uses machines, thus she uses fire, the heart of all machinary. Marle is a girl who can be both gentle and both very moody, thus she gets water.

[V_Translanka]

Yeah, but the way I see it, they're just as emotionally scarred as Magus...more or less anyways...Also, saying "Janus has a dark soul" doesn't really clarify anything for me...And, did you go over why Frog also has Water? Or is it just cause he's a frog?

[Legend of the Past]

Yeah, but the way I see it, they're just as emotionally scarred as Magus...more or less anyways...Also, saying "Janus has a dark soul" doesn't really clarify anything for me...And, did you go over why Frog also has Water? Or is it just cause he's a frog?

Well, yes. Spekkio gives it to him cuz he's a frog. And Marle and Lucca didn't see their mothers turn insane and destroy the only place they could of rightly called home, sacrficing their sister along the way, now, did they?

[V_Translanka]

Lucca saw her pop's invention chew on her mom's legs until they ceased to function.

Marle, although young, saw her mother fade and eventually die and eventually developed a daddy syndrome because of it.

Pick 'n' choose, but I don't think anyone can really say one is more or less horrible than the other.

[L33t Ninj4]

I already explained why Marle and Lucca got their types of magic. Janus is dark at soul, thus he gets Dark Magic. Lucca uses machines, thus she uses fire, the heart of all machinary. Marle is a girl who can be both gentle and both very moody, thus she gets water.

I'm reminded of Spekkios' reasoning behind each characters' magical properties. Perhaps, like Legend said, ones' magical abilities are based on who they are at the time that they discover magic.

I have to side with V_Translanka though, it would kind of suck if that truly was how your powers were decided. I mean, what if you were just having a bad day, like Magus? Now you're a dark wizard. Or what if you were feeling extremely compassionate one day, and WHAMO.. now you have a bunch of support magic when you really needed offensive type magic.

[Zaperking]

His soul is dark and scarred. Not evil, no... more like dark and emotionally scared. Well, that fits, too.

Janus isn't dark at heart..... A woman by the Mammon Machine states that Magus has like more of a depressed person who resents what happened to him when he was a child. He had a horrible one, probably being gated around the age of 8, yet he strived and survived, getting revenge on Lavos was the only thing on his mind.

[Young Woman]
   The prophet's aura is full of hatred and
   sorrow.
   
   He'll destroy himself, and those he
   loves.

As we can see, it's more Sorrow than acctual evil. And look at Robo, his magic is under the Shadow type, but he's still good.
As for Janus, Even Ayla admits to him being strange, but not bad/evil.

Ayla: Strange one...
   But not bad boy.

As you've seen, Zaper, you and I rarely agree when it comes to Schala, but I wholeheartedly agree with you there!  I think the "shadow" type kinda runs in the family.  And while she's probably no offensive magic powerhouse, I can definitely see her doing lots of negative-status attacks and attacks that dispel positive status.

^.^ I kind of thought that if Schala had any agressive magic, it'd be based on the opponent. Maybe she absorbs the enemies attack then fires it against them or something. I mean, she'd probably have a hard time fighting, knowing that she'll hurt some one, but just like Frog, she would do it.

This is what i have been trying to say, every1 in Zeal knew all types of magic! We're not talking about that there is the 2 classess of magic. Evry1 in Zeal knew all magic.

I don't think so. Their idea of magic was probably that it could do anything, but if one of them talked to Spekkio, he'd probably show them their true type of magic that they'd specialise in. It's kind of like school. We have maths, english, p.e, science etc. We learn all of these, but it doesn't mean that we're the best. And to get a job later, we need to specialise in one of many catagorise.

[L33t Ninj4]

I don't think so. Their idea of magic was probably that it could do anything, but if one of them talked to Spekkio, he'd probably show them their true type of magic that they'd specialise in. It's kind of like school. We have maths, english, p.e, science etc. We learn all of these, but it doesn't mean that we're the best. And to get a job later, we need to specialise in one of many catagorise.

Why was Magus able to cast spells outside of his specialty then?