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« on: July 14, 2005, 01:27:44 am »
While doing some editing of my awesome fanfic (check it out sometime[/whore]), I was going through a part that kind of went back to that part when you first confront Magus in his castle. Behind him is this wicked cool demon with, like, six arms or something and I think two of them are holding blue flame...Could this be some kind of Demon God that Magus uses to try and summon Lavos?
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2005, 01:39:12 am »
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While doing some editing of my awesome fanfic (check it out sometime[/whore]), I was going through a part that kind of went back to that part when you first confront Magus in his castle. Behind him is this wicked cool demon with, like, six arms or something and I think two of them are holding blue flame...Could this be some kind of Demon God that Magus uses to try and summon Lavos?


Likely, sort of a Molech, or Baal, or something equally nasty as that, I would suppose. Thanatos, the Grim Reaper, makes his appearance in Chrono Cross, so I suppose some of those other ancient deities could be put into that position in a similar manner.

It would be strange, though, to call it a demon god. In most mythologies, I believe, demons and gods are apart, and often in conflict.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2005, 01:42:55 am »
Oh? I was unawares. I'm not really all that big on my mythologic scholarship :lol: Although I always have liked mythology...Huh...Isn't there any kind of demon god in Japanese myth?
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2005, 02:46:12 am »
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Oh? I was unawares. I'm not really all that big on my mythologic scholarship :lol: Although I always have liked mythology...Huh...Isn't there any kind of demon god in Japanese myth?


You got me there, I suppose, as I really don't know it well enough. I suppose it depends on the defenition of god. Kronos as a Titan could be considered a demon of sorts, perhaps, and Zeus is his son. But instead the Olympians are gods. Personally, I think that in old myth 'god' is any one of the good guys or bad guys, and 'demon' plainly bad. I'll check the meaning of demon, though.

Okay, the lexicon has proven me wrong. Demon, or daimwn as it is in Greek (the Greek keys don't work on win98 here at home, I guess), simply means god or goddess, though in the New Testament (written in Greek), it has an evil connotation.

Actually, what I was specifically thinking of was what I know of Hindu myth, and how there is constant war between the gods and demons there (similarially, the Norse Aesir and Vanir are at war with the Jotun; most other myths have these great wars in the past, with victory already accomplished: Olympians over Titans, Marduk over Tiamat, and so on.)
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2005, 06:21:27 am »
There was a topic about "Zealian mythology" on Chrono Shock. Someone there noted that Magil mentions a fallen angel in RD, and that maybe it could be the same demon that the statue depicts :
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            "Hatred and jealousy in my hands..."
         "Gather into a thousand dark prayers..."

                  "The fallen angel, Arcmyst..."
      "Answer my prayer, and grant me thy power..."

                  "Death to all living things..."
                  "Destruction to all creation..."

                        "Devour all light..."
"Phantom... Break...!"

I only played RD's main scenario so I don't know all the details.
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2005, 07:00:29 am »
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Okay, the lexicon has proven me wrong. Demon, or daimwn as it is in Greek (the Greek keys don't work on win98 here at home, I guess), simply means god or goddess, though in the New Testament (written in Greek), it has an evil connotation.


The Old Testament always marked how all magic is considered evil, and how God hates all worship in other gods. Perhaps it was changed in the NT because of that?
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2005, 07:46:39 am »
it would tie in well if it was Zealian mythology, considering Magus was once there and knew about it. It was probably just something he used to gather more power. Or even something to make citizens fear him.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2005, 08:11:42 am »
Are you sure it was something Gil said? It sounds familiar, but from what I remember, Kid says that during the Sunflower ending...
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2005, 09:48:02 am »
Doin' my part to further the discussion with a visual aid. You know, before thinking about this I had always thought that the statue behind Magus was a statue of Lavos...but after looking at the screens, I was obviously way off. Anyhow:

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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2005, 09:50:50 am »
Did you create that image? how is that it is in perspective? Or does it belong to the primitive Resurrection project?
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2005, 10:00:00 am »
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Did you create that image? how is that it is in perspective? Or does it belong to the primitive Resurrection project?


I take no credit:
http://hinchu.com/misc/games/
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2005, 10:13:30 am »
cool...  :shock:
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2005, 10:58:03 am »
Wow those guys are good I like the Lavos Battle scene

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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2005, 12:28:29 pm »
Yeah, that DID come out pretty cool!
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2005, 01:59:45 pm »
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Are you sure it was something Gil said? It sounds familiar, but from what I remember, Kid says that during the Sunflower ending...

Mmh yeah I don't know, as I said I never played this scenario myself.


The Lavos Battle scene is awesome. Looks like SaGa Frontier II but even more beautiful.
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